Seems like good logic, isn't. Suppose no one had ever, up until this point, ever found gold in China. Until someone finds gold in China, I can categorically say that there is no gold in China. Until someone proves god to me, I can categorically say there is no god.
To say categorically, "There is no God," is to make an absolute statement. For the statement to be true, I must know for certain that there is no God in the entire universe. No human being has all knowledge. Therefore, none of us is able to truthfully make this assertion. This is ridiculous. We make categorical statements based on currently known information all the time. I hate the taste of alcohol. I have not tried all alcoholic beverages, so perhaps there is one that I might enjoy, but for right now, there aren't any.
Atheism is not the position that "even if you proved god to me I wouldn't believe", it is the position that "given all that I currently know, I don't believe in god." Don't turn the argument into something it isn't.
If you insist upon disbelief in God, again reframing the argument into something it isn't. I don't "disbelieve" in a god I know exists. I believe there is no god. prove to me there is a god, and I will change my mind. what you must say is, "Having the limited knowledge I have at present, I believe that there is no God." yeah, that is what I say. I know my knowledge is limited, everyone's knowledge is limited. which means that Ray's knowledge is as limited as my own. suck it, Ray! Owing to a lack of knowledge on your part, you don't know if God exists. So, in the strict sense of the word, you cannot be an atheist. Yes, I can. I don't believe god exists. This is the definition of atheism. The only true qualifier for the title what title? atheism is a title? Ok, loyal readers, I now insist you refer to me as "Atheist Personal Failure" in all future communications. is the One who has absolute knowledge, and why on earth would God want to deny His own existence? AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! The stupid, it burns! I don't believe in god, you can't use god to convince me of god!
The professing atheist is what is commonly known as an "agnostic" - one who claims he "doesn't know" if God exists. No, agnostics and atheists do get lumped togethre a lot, but they are not the same thing. Atheists believe there is no god, agnostics just don't know. It is interesting to note that the Latin equivalent for the Greek word is "ignoramus." This is disingenuous at best. "agnostic" means "noncomittal" or "doubter" while "ignoramus" means "ignorant of". They might be the best equivalents across the two languages, but they are not the same word.
The Bible tells us that this ignorance is "willful" good for you, using the book that means nothing more to me than any other book to prove that it should mean more to me. that's so useful. (Psalm 10:4). May as well start quoting Michael Crichton at me. It's not that a person can't find God, but that he won't. It has been rightly said that the "atheist" can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman. oh, puhlease. I look at the world and see it differently than you, and I am automatically immoral and hateful? Yeah, that's just the best kind of logic. He knows that if he admits that there is a God, he is admitting that he is ultimately responsible to Him. This is not a pleasant thought for some. This is not what stops me from being a believer. I already do obey the laws. I am far more moral, and commit far fewer of what are considered sins than most christians I know. Oh, and insulting me doesn't exactly incline me to come over to your side, asshat.
It is said that Mussolini (the Italian dictator seriously, you think there might be people unaware of who fucking Mussolini was?), once stood on a pinnacle a pinnacle of what? a mountain? a building? and cried, "God, if you are there, strike me dead!" When God didn't immediately bow to his dictates, Mussolini then concluded that there was no God. However, his prayer was answered some time later. Well, duh! On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.