tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334761054277672365.post3530222534992595975..comments2024-03-22T03:19:38.110-04:00Comments on Forever In Hell: I Are Smart- and Edumacated!PersonalFailurehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03034292023591747601noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334761054277672365.post-15825289545459617062011-05-18T19:04:08.323-04:002011-05-18T19:04:08.323-04:00"these same people that mock Christians, medi...<b>"these same people that mock Christians, media, movie "stars" and "movers and shakers" are heavily into Scientology. I mean, come on!"</b><br />Yep! Scientology is really, <i>really</i> dumb, I'll give you that one. Kudo's for noticing this.<br /><br /><b>"This "religion" was started by a guy who said he was going to start his own religion."</b> I know, right! <b>"And died in prison for his stupid worldly crimes. And the rules and regulations would rival the most superstitious of any pagan/space cult belief."</b> So true. So we agree! We're on the same page, and my opinion of you is quite hi-<br /><br /><b>"And don't even get me started on atheists!"</b> <br /><br />Oh god.<br /><br /><b>"They think that they are their own god and they put their faith in people."</b><br />We wha'? I mean, just... what? My own god? Fai- I don't have... I... grk... [anyurism]<br /><br /><b>" People they know are weak and going to fail them, a lot."</b> <br /><br />Well yeah, people do kinda suck. Especially the ones who try to use religon to curtail the rights of others. But I temper my "faith" in people with a healthy (debatable) overdose of cynicism, so it all works out.<br /><br /><b>"People whose moral center depends on that person's "moral standards" are." Which changes with the wind or flavor of the month.</b><br /><br />Thirty flavors has september, april, june and november... but I've been choc-o-minty for years (actually, I like to try a different flavor every time I buy it, but that doesn't fit with the morality==ice cream analogy).<br /><br /><b>"All I am saying is, who is the ignorant one?!!!"</b><br /><br />Well, given recent evidence... perhaps I should be looking more seriously into scientology?<br /><br />.....<br /><br /><b>"Related to the OP there is the myth that Christians are weak and need a crutch to get through this life. When I hear this I just mention... Chuck Norris..."</b><br /><br />Physical Strength when confronted with something that can be round-house kicked != Emotional strength when confronted with inevitable mortality. Though I suppose Chuck Norris might try to round-house kick mortality. Emotionally.<br /><br />Chuck Norris never shows emotion you say? Lies! Chuck Norris cries all the time! It's just that his tear ducts round-house kick his tears right back behind his eyes so you never see them!<br /><br /><b>"To me, atheists come across as whiny, boastful, and obnoxious, and they really don't tend to "play well with others."</b><br /><br />I suspect he lives somewhere where the only people who admit they are atheists are the extremely opinionated ones. Hey mate, the quiet guy in your workplace who shuts his mouth every time you start talking religon or politics? Atheist. The girl who offers vague agreement to everything you say while not volunteering her own opinions? Atheist. 1 in every 10 people you meet? Atheists.<br /><br /><b>"However, after some careful study of Genesis, I don't really see conflict between the Bible and geology either."</b><br /><i>"Translation: I had some cognitive dissonance and I couldn't handle it, so I changed how I interpreted the Bible until it went away"</i><br /><br />He's a rapturite. I doubt he changed his creationist views. "some careful study of Genesis" probably means "reading all the misinformation put out by Answers In Genesis and Reasons To Believe".<br /><br /><b>"Anyway, I've found that those who are atheists (or even just non-believers in general) are the same type of people who believe in spending borrowed money to get out of debt. Not exactly smart."</b><br /><i>"I . . . wut?"</i><br />Translation: All Afiests are Libruls who support Big Government Spending.<br /><br />With that said, Fred Clark quite often makes the point that the only way to stop the downward economic spiral is to employ the unemployed, and that's going to require your government borrowing money at some point.Quasarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09398018171200335379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334761054277672365.post-26581214727348421772011-05-18T13:17:04.432-04:002011-05-18T13:17:04.432-04:00"The idea that you can dispel a myth from the...<i>"The idea that you can dispel a myth from the mind of a fool is a lovely notion but the fact that they knowingly choose to do that which is not convenient tells us they already know it's a myth before they speak it."</i><br /><br />Okay, this really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But here's my stab at it. This apparently comes just after this: <i>"The bible states clearly that in the last days, the wise would be called fools, and fools would think themselves wise."</i><br /><br />I think he's trying to say that if you consider yourself too wise to believe in what he believes in you are, in fact, a fool. But the irony is that he says you can't dispel a myth from the mind of a fool because they knowingly <i>choose</i> not to believe something for which there is no evidence. Who's the fool here?<br /><br />I can say that because I used to be an Inerrantist, Fundamental, Conservative, Evangelical Christian. Even when I was all of that I completely understood why those who didn't didn't. It's beyond farfetched. I always had a hard time "witnessing". Try telling someone this:<br /><br />You should believe that there is a God who created everything in six literal days and supernaturally sent his son through a virgin as a sacrifice for you. Sounds totally believable, right?Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17313118060838041133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334761054277672365.post-5683034775279380102011-05-18T11:52:53.211-04:002011-05-18T11:52:53.211-04:00This "religion" was started by a guy who...<i>This "religion" was started by a guy who said he was going to start his own religion. And died in prison for his stupid worldly crimes. And the rules and regulations would rival the most superstitious of any pagan/space cult belief.</i><br /><br />It really seems to me that Christians shouldn't make a big deal about the condition of the founders of other religions vis-a-vis their relation with law enforcement at the time of their death...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334761054277672365.post-60650404533497549622011-05-18T10:52:35.377-04:002011-05-18T10:52:35.377-04:00This "religion" was started by a guy who...<i>This "religion" was started by a guy who said he was going to start his own religion. And died in prison for his stupid worldly crimes. And the rules and regulations would rival the most superstitious of any pagan/space cult belief.</i><br /><br />The guy obviously doesn't know much about various Pagan traditions. And to be blunt, people who believe in virgin births, bodily resurrections, and the saving power of the Magic Words really shouldn't throw around words like "superstitious" willy nilly. Just saying.<br /><br /><i>People whose moral center depends on that person's "moral standards" are. Which changes with the wind or flavor of the month.</i><br /><br />You know, this borders on the whole "only Christians can be moral" conceit. The thing is, actual observation of non-Christians -- be they Buddhist, Pagan, or atheist, disproves that conceit.<br /><br />Quite frankly, I've found my morals to be pretty consistent throughout my life, despite going through a radical change in religious beliefs (Baptist to witch). Sure, I decided a few things that I originally thought were immoral are a-okay. But then again, I've also become more stringent and principled in other areas. But at the root of it, the root of my morality is all about how my actions affect myself, the people around me, and the world in general. But quite frankly, I don't see how that differs from Jesus's claim that all morality (the law) is based upon the principles of "Love God" and "Love your neighbor as yourself." I've simply chosen to rest on that foundation and build from there rather than accepting someone else's rules of what it means to do those two things.<br /><br /><i>I am a Christian and a lawyer</i><br /><br />That's nice. So tell me, what's your opinion on the recent discovery that teachers at Liberty Law School who allegedly taught their students that it was their Christian duty to encourage a client in a custody battle with a same sex ex-partner to kidnap the kid and split the country? (Incidentally, how do you feel about the fact that the teachers in question were also the lawyers for Lisa Miller, who did exactly that?)<br /><br /><i>To me, atheists come across as whiny, boastful, and obnoxious, and they really don't tend to "play well with others."</i><br /><br />Damn, I broke another irony meter!Jarredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04793668797961461325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1334761054277672365.post-40672298800276378602011-05-18T09:50:23.612-04:002011-05-18T09:50:23.612-04:00Yay, I'm an Episcopalian. We're near the...Yay, I'm an Episcopalian. We're near the very top! Episcopalians are smart and edjumacated!<br /><br />...but seriously, the reason that my Biblical views are what they are is BECAUSE of my education. I took religious studies courses in college as my electives. They were all taught by ordained ministers who also happened to be college professors at a state university. They taught me how to not read the Bible like a moron. I also attended a campus ministry. The ministers there helped me along when the professors could not. Going to college is what made me a liberal Christian with liberal theology.<br /><br />...and he might have a zero golf handicap, but I'm really good at Wii golf, especially the Tiger Woods version, which disappointingly does not contain a "cheat on your hot blond wife with other hot blonds" mode. How am I supposed to get the full Tiger Woods experience? There is no spit on the golf course button either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com