Ideology Gone Awry

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Prolifers like to say that every late term abortion Dr. Tiller provided was "frivolous". No, they weren't. The story of Baby Faith is the story of prolife ideology gone horribly awry.

The Story of Baby Faith Hope is a blog written by a 23 year old woman who discovered she was pregnant with an anencephalic baby. Anencephaly is a neural tube defect which results in a baby that is missing most of its brain. In fact, such babies are missing most of their heads and are born without the top of the skull. You can see some pretty horrifying pictures of you search "anencephaly pictures". These babies have no hope for survival, the only possibility for them is suffering and death. It's a tragedy, plain and simple.

My name is Myah Walker. In about 8 weeks from now I will be giving birth to my little girl, Faith Hope. Faith was diagnosed with anencephaly at my 19-week ultrasound on September 12.

Anything after 20 weeks is a late term abortion. Thank whatever you want they are legal in such circumstances, because I can't imagine being faced with this sort of news and then being forced to rush about trying to get an appointment for an abortion within 5-7 days.

Myah is staunchly prolife.

When given the option to either carry her to term or terminate the pregnancy, I immediately told the doctor that I wanted to carry her to term. It was not a decision that I had to think about. For some reason I had to give the doctors my decision over and over again, which was frustrating. One doctor asked, "Can I ask why you want to continue this pregnancy?" I guess some people are baffled by unconditional love.

No, sweetie, like me they were baffled that you would want to put yourself and a baby through such pain unnecessarily. I can't possibly judge you, the position you were in is unthinkably cruel, but I can't imagine making the same choice, nor should I or any other woman be forced to.

What happens next, however, is even worse. After giving birth, Myah believes that baby Faith has some chance at a normal life. At one point, she describes baby Faith as "advanced". She does everything possible to keep her alive, feeding baby Faith through a tube because she can't coordinate sucking and swallowing, giving her medication after medication for her breathing difficulties, trying to find a pediatrician for her.

What's truly cruel is that Myah blames herself for her baby's death.

On May 23rd, 2009, Faith passed into Heaven. She died of a gastro-intestinal bleed. She did not die of anencephaly, as predicted. She died of a stomach ulcer... something that may have been prevented if we had found our Pediatrician a little sooner. It breaks my heart to think that if we had done things differently, that Faith might not have suffered the way she did. But I have peace knowing that she is safe in Heaven now, living a beautiful pain-free life.

No, Myah, you did not kill your baby. No pediatrician could have saved her. Yes, the medication she was on caused the ulcer, but without the medication, she would have died sooner. She had no chance at all. You did nothing wrong.

To make matters even worse, prolife groups published fairy tales about Baby Faith's short, painful existence.

When the baby was born, she was apparently able to both see and hear and suffered no health problems other than anencephaly. No medication was required in Faith’s daily care and she was able to breastfeed, although she also received nutrition through a tube.

That's an outright lie.

When the baby was born, she had half a skull. Almost every post after Baby Faith was born chronicled her health problems, from constant breathing difficulties to eye infections and bleeding ulcers and she took medication every day of her life.

If Myah had had an abortion, she could have moved on. Instead, she gave birth to a doomed child, came to believe she was not only normal, but advanced, and now blames herself for her baby's death. This is the malignancy of prolife ideology, and ideology that forces innocent women and children to suffer horribly. I can hope that baby Faith couldn't feel pain, but I doubt it. She could open her eyes, she could make noises and move her limbs, she could probably feel pain.

This is what "no abortion ever" forces upon its victims. It is evil.

I'm Prolife, So You Must Die

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Peter Heck, guest columnist for OneNewsNow, offers us The Tiller Ironies, a compilation of illogic and irrationality that when viewed by Irony, immediately caused a massive brain hemmorhage. Congratulations, Mr. Heck, you killed Irony.

Though predictable, it was no less despicable. Just a day following the heinous murder of the country's foremost practitioner of infanticide ummm, the legal medical procedure known as abortion?, George Tiller, radical anti-human rights activists on the left yeah, that was me. i hate human rights. stop breathing! were already condemning the entire pro-life movement for facilitating the incident.

Left-wing websites like the Daily Kos blamed conservative commentators Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck for causing it, the Huffington Post deemed it a morally outrageous hypocrisy, and PBS's abortion fanatic what? she attended abortions with a big foam finger and a flag that said "we're number 1!"? Bonnie Erbe went so far as to characterize the entire pro-life movement as a breeding ground for domestic terrorists. Of course rational people you actually know rational people? oh, of course, the nice people at the psych ward. recognize that it borders on clinical insanity to rail about the moral outrage of killing a single human being while simultaneously defending and advocating the wholesale slaughter of millions of others. i don't consider a fetus to be equal to a living, breathing human being. jackass. And just to make sure that there is no confusion on this point, let's be clear on what Tiller did for a living. you mean help real women with real problems? probably not. look, just to be clear, all this crap about "frivolous" late term abortions is just that: crap. abortions past 20 weeks are heavily regulated. you can't get one just because you changed your mind about having a baby. you can only get a late term abortion because your life is in danger or the fetus is severely ill or has a genetic abnormality that will make life impossible.

I will skip the graphic, and possibly untrue, descriptions of late term abortions. you are welcome to read them if you wish.

Again, these are full-term, completely viable infants capable of living outside the womb with totally developed life systems no, they're not. they're babies with no brains (NSFW), babies with severe genetic disorders that offer only a brief, brutal life– including the ability to experience pain. In short, Tiller practiced infanticide no he practiced medicine– and the left defended it. the practice of medicine? yes. Hearing these leftists now lament the taking of human life is disgracefully stomach turning. you know what, when you can carry a fetus for 9 months that will die immediately after birth, you come talk to me about stomach turning.

Notice then the irony of the situation. The only people in a position to truly express outrage over Tiller's murder are those that the left is attempting to blame for it. But this is just one of the numerous twists surrounding this tragic situation. i see. so, if i'm prochoice, i can't be outraged about murder. apparently, if someone comes along and kills my entire family, Mr. Heck expects me to walk away humming a cheery tune.

And then we get something that is irony, but not for the reason Mr. Heck thinks it is.

For instance, consider this irony: those that claim to be outraged by Tiller's murder will be calling for a lighter penalty than those they condemn for causing it. When Tiller's murderer is brought to justice, it will be those of us who oppose abortion that will be demanding his execution. The intrinsic value of human life (which, paradoxically, Tiller assaulted) is so great that anyone who violates it forfeits his own right to live.

so, being prolife automatically means being pro death penalty? ummm . . . do you not see the contradiction there, buddy? really? "i hate murder so much, I'll kill over it" doesn't set off any bells for you?

Meanwhile, it will be those on the left who proudly defended Tiller's life work that will call for a softer sentence. They consider the death penalty barbaric and find pro-lifers who advocate capital punishment inconsistent. "You can't be pro-life and pro-death penalty!" they shout. yeah. you spent paragraphs excoriating Dr. Tiller as a murderer for his legal medical practice, but you're all about the death penalty?

Evidently to them, being pro-abortion and anti-death penalty is somehow better?! Is there anything more ethically offensive then those who defend the right to life for convicted, murderous felons, yet strip that right from innocent newborn babies? yeah, it's not abortion if the baby is born. that is infanticide. step back from the rhetoric and actually read what you're writing. It is astonishing that anyone can be so blinded by their own self-righteous pomposity it is awfully bright over here that they fail to see this blatant moral incongruity. and now you're stealing my lines.

It's also notably ironic that the same ideological movement that demands we not castigate all Muslims for the actions of a few is so quick to violate its own precepts when it comes to this issue. We aren't hearing the throngs of Hollywood activists shouting that "most pro-lifers are peaceful," or seeing Democratic congressmen thumping their chests while proclaiming that "revenge against the pro-life movement for the actions of this one radical will not be tolerated." first of all, leave the muslims out of it. they weren't involved. secondly, was somebody planning a war against prolifers? what "revenge against the prolife movement"? oh, noes, we're being mean to them, horribly mean! it's just like the war in Iraq!

Indeed, the ironies surrounding the murder of this murderer are plentiful to say the least. But perhaps the most tragic of them all is that in the end, George Tiller met a brutal demise at the hands of someone who exhibited a blatant disrespect for the intrinsic value of human life...a lesson that Tiller – with the left's blessing – dedicated his life to teaching.
I see. Dr. Tiller was responsible for Dr. Tiller's death. do you also ask rape victims what they were wearing, Mr. Heck?

Murderers! We're All Murderers!

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(Except you infertile people. You're free to go.)

In the wake of the murder of Dr. Tiller, and subsequent closing of his clinic, I thought I would mention something about the "life begins at conception" meme. (I believe it was PZ Myers who said this first. I'm just riffing off of it, because it really can't be said enough.)

"Life begins at conception" is an incorrect statement because of the word begins. The use of the word begin implies that prior to this beginning, whatever it was that began wasn't there before the beginning. To put it simply, if I told you that the episode of House we are watching began at 8:00 pm (EST), you would correctly assume that prior to 8:00, this episode was not airing.

Saying that life begins at conception implies that there was no life prior to conception. So what are sperm and eggs, dead? Eggs do just float around, but have you ever seen a sperm? Busy little suckers, aren't they? Don't exactly look unalive to me.



A more correct statement would be that life continues at conception, if you happen to equate the potential for things with the things themselves. (Which is like regarding a canvas and some paint as great art, but whatever.)

If you're being intellectually honest, and you actually do believe that life continues at conception, why aren't you up in arms about the billions and billions and billions of "lives" being lost every day? Every month during a woman's cycle, an egg is released from one or the other of her ovaries. If she doesn't get pregnant, that egg dies. Why aren't the "life continues at conception" people crying "murder!" over that. I would be a murderer about 120 times over.

You know why they don't say that? Because if they did, they would have to insist that every girl have sex with the intention of getting pregnant from the moment she got her first period (though at that point, she would already be a murderer). Which would mean insisting that 9 year old girls have sex.

What about men? They're even more prolific murderers. Each ejaculation contains millions of sperm, millions of little lives. If those sperm don't combine with an egg, they die. Well, you might say, that's why I'm against masturbation. Sorry, no. Even if a man impregnates a woman, only one of those sperm continues on. The other million or so die.

That's right, even a successful pregnancy results in death. Lots of death.

Clearly, the only way to prevent such wanton slaughter is get one man to ejaculate two or three times, castrate that man, and all other men on the planet, then use the sperm, one by one, to impregnate every woman every time they produce eggs, including 9 year old girls.

Any suggestions as to which man we should use?

The Reality of Dr. Tiller

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Rarely do we hear the stories I will link to below, the true stories of heartbreak and loss behind all the rhetoric that surrounds late term abortion, and Dr. Tiller. These stories made me cry, and reminded me that behind all the signs and slogans are real people and real suffering.

Never forget the people behind the debate. When you do, you risk becoming a monster.

Nicholas' mom

Nathan Jack's mom

Anonymous

I Am Torned

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I'm sure you've all heard about the murder of Dr. Tiller by now. I thought I'd check on our friends at Rapture Ready and see what the response has been on the other side of crazy.

April goes straight for god's ineffibility: I am torned. Now his family have Opportunity to learn from this tragedy. I hope they pray, and understand that ALL LIFE is Precious and a Gift from God.Through darkness there is light....

I hope someone removes all the sharp objects from the room before you express that sentiment to Dr. Tiller's family, April.

Musclecar1975 ratchets up the crazy with this bizarre comment: While on one hand, [Dr. Tiller's church] appear to believe in the sanctity of life, on the other hand, they condone abortion if the baby will have abnormalities, or if a woman is raped, which research has shown, it is very rare for a woman to get pregnant as a result of rape.

yes, Musclecar1975, women only get pregnant because they want to. Seriously, wtf?!

Seemomgonuts has a very odd view of those of on the prochoice side of the debate: This man was a king to the pro-abortion crowd. Funny how they won't see that the shooter excercised their right to choose. They chose to kill someone, yet to the pro-abortionist, no irony will be found. did i miss the memo where some doctor i'd never even heard of became my king? was that in the copy of the liberal agenda I didn't get yet?

It doesn't take the RR crew long to get to the wingnuts' latest meme: Obama did it so he has an excuse to put all the christians (75% of the US) in prison.

homesick9748: When I heard about this, I had to ask myself: "Just WHO will benefit from this murder?" We all know the answer: Certainly NOT us pro-life, pro-gun, conservative Christians. well, then, of course the murderer was prochoice then. i hope the police are reading this so they don't bother looking for someone opposed to abortion.

antitox may or may not be expressing the same sentiment: Super. This incident may backfire and somehow confirm to EvilBama and fellow henchman Napolitano to really view us as terrorists.

Rhon is, as far as I can tell, arguing that all medical procedures are pointless. we should just sit around waiting for god to intervene: What if the doctor is wrong in saying the mother's life is at risk? Granted, he is a Doctor, but that does not make him God. Only God would know for certain if that woman's life were at risk. If the doctor turned out to be wrong, and a baby is murdered over that....Ooops????

I'm sorry, but it makes no difference how much the mothers life is at risk, makes no difference if she has 2 children or 10. It is still murder regardless. Who is to say that God doesn't have plans for that child? Who is to say God won't intervene and and save the woman? It makes no difference...it's murder....pure and simple and it is a sin.

yeah. excuse me while i stick with antibiotics over prayer.

Trance trots out the persecuted christian meme:

Originally Posted by imfree
Indeed. But I just know that we (born again evangelical) will be blamed for this.

Of course we will be. After all, it's 'politically correct' to hate Christians. It's 'trendy' to hate Christians.

yes, yes, yes. christians aren't allowed to marry. christians can't get elected president. christian fear carrying around their holy book and wearing symbols of their belief. it's a sad, sad world we live in, trance.

Pendragon snaps irony's neck and then stabs the corpse a few hundred times, then sets it on fire for good measure: I find it very Ironic and almost divine in action please, continue....I know some may not agree so let me put into words my thoughts yes, that is how message boards work.... Tiller was an usher at the church meaning he had heard the word at lest 50 times 50? how did we arrive at 50? why not "at least once" or "hundreds of times"? 50?...while the shooter did commit murder in sense we know it now no, he did not commit murder "in sense", he committed murder in fact....In biblical times if you had an assasian an "assasian"? what's that? running around and were able to identify him he too was considered a murderer because assassins (and possibly assasians) murdered people.... In the terms of Tiller and late term abortion. verb? It is considerd murder in the eyes of G-d and the person who killed Tiller carried out judgement right in what our eyes believe it to be or wrong i think my brain just died.... G-d chooses who lives and who dies.. so, it's never murder? just blame god and do whateverthefuck you want? If this person later comes out and says they were the killer and they have repented to G-d for grace as was with David and Uriah so should it be for them. wtf? they will have to pay the consequence but in G-d's choice he has made divine judgement and in that I will abide i think he keeps trying to say that Tiller's murder was exactly what god wanted and therefore is good. so, do you feel the same way when children are murdered? what about abortion? isn't that god's will? be careful with the logic that is pointy on both ends, my dear... I pray Grace for the person who killed him and mercy on the soul of the one who died But i I exahlt G-d in his divine wisdom as to the action happening.... The power is his for that purpose we don't know all his ways but for this to happen in a church where he had given fair warning to Tiller through his word I find to be surreal in and of itself... you find it "surreal"? really? I pray for all involved that grace and mercy will abound... as for us as christians another weight has been added to our cross may we seek G-d's face in this and remain faithful and follow his word and direction in all things we must do future wise wow. i didn't think it could get any stupider, but "future wise" allowed pendragon to achieve the impossible.

antitox reappears with deep concerns about the dictionary: This all ties in to re-defining. They re-defined that a baby in the whom BWAHAHAHAHAHA wasn't life, they re-defined civil rights where you can't say what you believe i know, doesn't it suck that we can't say n***er and f** anymore?, they are working to re-define marriage, and they re-defined the constitutionalists (the right) as extremists/terrorists. You can bet they will be re-defining a whole lot more very soon. we'll redefine spoons as forks! shoes as hats! dogs will become hamsters! bacon will be pudding! when will the madness end?!

hilhill takes the justification tack: Now, I hope people don't take this the wrong way (and thanks for pointing out that it was a liberal church... Man it just infuriates me when people shame the name of Christ like that)...... And maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate here i doubt you even know what that means...I watched the movie Valkyrie. I liked that movie. well, now we know who those people are. The whole premise of the movie was an assassination attempt against Hitler, a monster that killed millions of innocent people. because there might be some people who don't know who hitler was. There are other murderers/evil leaders throughout history that have been killed or have been sought to be killed hitler sought to be killed? because of their treacherous acts on humanity.

How is the killing of this abortion doctor any different? oh, my. Now, again, I'm NOT saying that we should go out and kill abortion doctors but it's just like killing hitler or that his murder was good or anything like that killing hitler would not have been good? so please don't misunderstand me. no, i'm pretty sure i am understanding you. But if you have the possibility of preventing thousands of innocent lives from being slaughtered... Is it not justified??

Maybe I'm just thinking out loud here or in print ... or talking out of my head is there some other way to talk?... I dont know!! clearly

we'll end with 4given, who seems a little confused as to NOW's purpose: The murder of the doctor will only make matters worse, especially after Napolitano already decreed pro lifers akin to domestic terrorists. Especially after the domestic terrorists at NOW have begun there diatribe.

Only in America can you go to jail for killing a dog, yet killing an unborn child is justified?

There is no justification for Murder in either case, the Lord God said vengence is mine.

i can't imagine why anyone would think there are crazies in this world. i just don't get it.