swedish chef, hacker, redneck, dialect, dialectizer, comfort, ray, awesome
This is the awesomest thing evah! (I know I've said that before, but this time, I really mean it.)
Ever wonder how something might sound in Redneck, Hacker or Swedish Chef? Wonder no more with the Dialtectizer! Just put in the the url to dialectize an entire site, or you can input text yourself.
Let's try it with Ray Comfort's latest post.
As Ray wrote it:
There are millions of variations in the fossil record. There are small dinosaurs and there are big dinosaurs. Some have big feet, big skulls, and big bones. There are small dogs and big dogs, big and small horses, and big and small cats. There are bones of birds that had large heads and large claws. There is no argument there. But that’s not evidence of Darwinian evolution, just as there is no evolutionary change between Gilbert and myself. We are simply differing forms of the same species. Evolution’s believers are still looking for species-to-species transitional forms in the fossil record. There is nothing in the bone record that is empirical evidence of one species transitioning into another species. There are the old bones of a bird that scientists theorize could have been a dinosaur, simply because it has large claws (Archaeopteryx). Some modern birds also have claws on their wings, and yet no one claims they are missing links. But they are just "theorizing." They are merely imagining. Like John Lennon. It’s easy if you try. Evolutionary "scientists" are good at imagining. They do it with fish, birds, lizards, and of course, humans. They even draw little pictures to make them look real, like the talented Disney imagineers. But it’s not reality. In reality, the missing links are still missing.
In Redneck:
Thar is millions of variashuns in th' fostil reco'd, cuss it all t' tarnation. Thar is small dinosaurs an' thar is trimenjus dinosaurs. Some haf trimenjus feet, trimenjus skulls, an' trimenjus bones. Thar is small houn'dogs an' trimenjus houn'dogs, trimenjus an' small houn'dogs, an' trimenjus an' small cats. Thar is bones of birds thet had large haids an' large claws. Thar is no argoomnt thar. But thet’s not evidence of Darwinian evolushun, jest as thar is no evolushunary change between Gilbert an' mahse'f. We is simply differin' fo'ms of th' same species. Evolushun’s believahs is still lookin' fo' species-to-species transishunal fo'ms in th' fostil reco'd, cuss it all t' tarnation. Thar is nothin' in th' bone reco'd thet is empirical evidence of one species transishunin' into t'other species. Thar is th' old bones of a bird thet scientists theo'ize c'd haf been a dinosaur, simply on account o' it has large claws (Archaeopperyx). Some modern birds also haf claws on their win's, an' yet no one claims they is missin' links. But they is jest "theo'izin'." They is merely imaginin'. Like John-Boy Lennon, as enny fool kin plainly see. It’s easy eff'n yo' try. Evolushunary "scientists" is fine at imaginin'. They does it wif fish, birds, lizards, an' of course, hoomins. They even draw li'l pitchers t'make them look real, like th' talented Disney imagineers. But it’s not reality. In reality, th' missin' links is still missin'
In Hacker:
tehre ar eiml;lions of variatio\s In teh foss1l record!!!!!!!!!!!!1~~~ THER EAR ESMALL DINOSAURS AND T3HRE ARE BIG D1NOSAURZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 some ahve ibg fert,, b1g skulls, and big bones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111~~ therer smalld igz andb i gdogs, big and smlal hroses, and big ands mal7 catas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~ becuz I will ahck U theree qre bones o fbIrzd tyhat had large ehadz an dlarge claws theresi mo argumenT tehre~~~~~ but that’xz on tevidence of deqrwini4n evolUti0n, just as terhe is no evolutionary change between gilbart and mys3lf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1~~ WE AR SIMPLY DIFAFRING FORMS OF THE SAM ESAPECE1s/ EVOLUTIo\’S BELEIVARS R STILL LOOKIJNG FOR SPEC3IS-O-SPECEIS TRANS1TIONQL fORMZIN TEH FOPSSIL ERCORD~~~~ tHEREW SI NOTHING INTHE BONE R3CORD THAT SI EMPRIICAL EV1SDENEC OF ONE SOECEZI TRANITiONING NTO ANTEHR SPECEIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 there r t3h Old bones of a b1rd hat sCeint1sts tehroize could avhe beewn adinosauR, dsi,mp7y bdcauz it ahs lare cl4wS ((archaE0pT3ryx).. s0/\/\e omdern birds Also ahve claws on tHe1r wings, and yet n0 one claim sthey r missing linkz~~~ but th3y r kust "theorizing!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~ TYHEY ZR MMERELY IMAGNIING cause I will ahjck Y0UUUUUU LICK JOHn LENNOn 1t’z easy if you try/ LOLOLOLOLOOLOOLOLOLO~~~ EVOLUTIONARY "SCDENITISTS' AR GOOD TA IAMGInIING, u suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~ tehy do 1t \\\\////\\\\////ith fish, birdz, LIzatds, nad of course, humans i own j00!!!!!!!11~~~~ tehy evne draw liTtle picturez to make tehm look rea7, lick the talented disney imgaineerz but it’s nOt Realiyt!!!!!!!!!!!!~~ IN REALITY, THE MISS1NG LINKS ARE STILL MISSSING~~~~~
In Swedish Chef:
Zeere-a ere-a meelliuns ooff fereeeshuns in zee fusseel recurd. Bork bork bork! Zeere-a ere-a smell deenusoors und zeere-a ere-a beeg deenusoors. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Sume-a hefe-a beeg feet, beeg skoolls, und beeg bunes. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Zeere-a ere-a smell dugs und beeg dugs, beeg und smell hurses, und beeg und smell cets. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Zeere-a ere-a bunes ooff burds thet hed lerge-a heeds und lerge-a clevs. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Zeere-a is nu ergooment zeere-a. Boot thet’s nut ifeedence-a ooff Derveeniun ifulooshun, joost es zeere-a is nu ifulooshunery chunge-a betveee Geelbert und myselff. Ve-a ere-a seemply deeffffering furms ooff zee seme-a speceees. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Ifulooshun’s beleeefers ere-a steell luukeeng fur speceees-tu-speceees trunseeshunel furms in zee fusseel recurd. Bork bork bork! Zeere-a is nutheeng in zee bune-a recurd thet is impureecel ifeedence-a ooff oone-a speceees trunseeshuning intu unuzeer speceees. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Zeere-a ere-a zee oold bunes ooff a burd thet sceeentists zeeureeze-a cuoold hefe-a beee a deenusoor, seemply becoose-a it hes lerge-a clevs (Ercheeupteryx). Sume-a mudern burds elsu hefe-a clevs oon zeeur veengs, und yet nu oone-a cleeems zeey ere-a meessing leenks. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Boot zeey ere-a joost "zeeureezing." Zeey ere-a merely imegeening. Leeke-a Juhn Lennun. Bork bork bork! It’s iesy iff yuoo try. Bork bork bork! Ifulooshunery "sceeentists" ere-a guud et imegeening. Zeey du it veet feesh, burds, leezerds, und ooff cuoorse-a, hoomuns. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Zeey ifee drev leettle-a peectoores tu meke-a zeem luuk reel, leeke-a zee telented Deesney imegeeneers. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Boot it’s nut reeleety. Bork bork bork! In reeleety, zee meessing leenks ere-a steell meessing.
Just for fun, howz about we really drive Ray nuts and enter all of our comments in dialectically pure Swedish Chef from now on?
Friday, February 20, 2009
Modern Day Mormon Gulags
mormon, lds, god, good, torture, homophobia, gay, utah, buttars, boys, ranch
As we watch the Mormon Church celebrate people like Senator Buttars (he of the "gays are more dangerous than ricin and bin Laden combined" fame) and desperately to keep gays as second class citizens, I though it appropriate to remind you that as clean-cut and sincere as they seem, there is an ugly underbelly to the Church of Latter Day Saints. (btw, please check out exmormon.org if you are considering converting, or if you have any questions about the LDS. the stories on that site are heartbreaking, but the courage the posters have displayed in taking control of their own lives is truly inspiring.)
From Daily Kos
This story is about Eric Norwood's personal experiences at a place called The Utah Boys Ranch, which models itself as a "tough-love" prep-school, but while Eric was there, he witnessed some unbelievable atrocities. It is a Mormon-funded and staffed facility, and religious indoctrination is a fundamental aspect of the school. There was sexual, physical, and emotional abuse, suicide, staff corruption, and escape. A major Utah political figure, Senator Chris Buttars, was the executive director while Eric was there
His filthy digit tasted like rust and fish. "I can hurt you without leaving any marks," Brent growled as I writhed in agony on the ground. I struggled for breath as he mounted my back, put his finger in my mouth, and pulled back on my cheek, fish-hooking me. The pain was incredible. I tried to beg him to stop, but the words would not come.
After he finished beating and bludgeoning submissiveness into me, he pulled me up by the rope that was lassoed around my waist. The wool army blanket I had fashioned as a skirt had shifted askew and I stood there in my boxers bleeding from my nose, humiliated.
My green Utah Boys Ranch t-shirt had been ridiculously stretched out and looked more like a low cut blouse. I loosened the noose around my waist and pulled the itchy blanket through the loop and folded it over so it looked like a brown bath towel secured by a belt. He wasn't satisfied, he wanted more. I just wanted out of this classroom. I started to think about how I got here.
The Utah Boys Ranch appears to be a kind of tough-love school with a Christian-esque undertow. My parents thought as much when they employed its services in hopes of corralling their spiritually wayward son.
[...] this is background into how Eric wound up at the Utah Boys Ranch. It seems like pretty typical 15 year old stuff to me.
The first person I met in Utah was Senator Chris Buttars. I had no idea who he was until that point.
All I knew was that he was to be feared, and I was scared to death of him from the moment I first saw him.
"Sit down," he squawked in a loud, high pitched, galling voice that sounded like a cross between a buzzard and an old cowboy. He continued to make it very clear that I was at his mercy. He told me who he was - politically - and the influence he had. If I ever wanted to leave I was to do what he said. "How old are you?"
"Fifteen," I mumbled.
"Three years might not be enough for you. I can have a judge order you to be here until you are 21," he croaked. With that he sent me off to be "changed and put on work crew."
I was led down a long hall of doors with nameplates. I had no clue what kind of place this was. I didn't see any cows or horses...no sign of what I thought a "ranch" would resemble. Paul took me into a small room that was no bigger than a broom closet, which was stacked to the ceiling with three colors of cloth, blue, green and brown. There were green t-shirts, blue t-shirts, and blue jeans.
There were also brown army wool blankets, and I remember thinking that I didn't want to sleep under such a coarse covering before I was told to "put it on." I was told to wrap a thick, itchy blanket around my waist like a towel and wear it like a dress.
I was then given a "leash" made of climbing rope and what I think was a square knot to tie around my waist.
I had never imagined being tethered and walked like a dog, but here I was, being walked like a dog towards a cluster of about 12 other boys. They were lined up facing a wall while two large men in red sweatshirts watched them from a couple of chairs off to the side.
Some of the boys had camouflage pants on, a few others wore dresses. I wondered how long I was to be in this blanket dress. I was later told that it was so I wouldn't run away - and they were right - I literally could not run in this humiliating getup. I could barely get a full stride walking.
That's when I saw Brent - or 'Captain America,' as he was called disparagingly - for the first time. My leash was handed off to him, but he told me to wrap it around my waist and go join the group of young men who were standing with their noses touching the wall, all spread out about arms length from each other.
I turned to the boy who was standing to my right and asked him how long he had been here, but before I could get my question all the way out, my forehead careened into the carpeted wall in front of me. A sharp pain stabbed the back of my head, and suddenly bad breath filled my nostrils. "Are you talking on my work crew, boy?" a red-shirted man screamed at me.
My head was ringing. I was still trying to piece together what had just happened when I looked behind me and massaged the pain in my head. Suddenly my legs fell out from underneath me and I was on my back.
He had just slammed my forehead into the wall, and now he had put his foot behind mine and pushed me, sending me to the floor flat on my back.
He stood over me and bawled, "Don't look at me. Don't look around. Don't you MOVE without permission! You don't do anything without permission! If you talk, I think you are talking about running away, and I will restrain you. Do you understand?" I nodded. I knew then that I had to get out of this place. I wasn't going to last here.
It was only my second week on work crew when Neil Westwood refused to turn his back to Brent and place his nose on the wall, which is what the command "face the wall" plainly meant. It was a Mexican standoff for a few moments. Stunningly it seemed like Brent was going to let Neil get his way. I had never seen an older boy in a pissing contest with a staff member before. The younger kids refused commands, but they were always quickly thumped into docility.
Neil was a big kid, a lot bigger than me - probably 230 pounds or so, and over six-feet tall, but dispelled any image of toughness with his glasses, disproportionately small arms, and frizzy hairdo. Neil was as obnoxious as he was an easy target, but I still can't believe that no one reacted when Brent stood up in a flash of rage and chucked a full, unopened gallon of milk at Neil's face from about five feet away, crumbling him to a pitiful puddle of tears, blood, and non-fat milk.
The work crew was depraved. When they didn't have us facing the wall for hours at a time we were digging ditches with spoons, only to fill them back in again.
We made huge piles of heavy rocks taken from the field, the field that both surrounded and contained us, only to be told to move the massive mound to another location. They worked us in ways redolent of Stalin's gulags.
There was an agonizing week of all-day sod laying - with bits of mud and grass sticking to the inside of my wool dress - in preparation for some ceremony the work crew boys weren't privy to. The Scarecrow Festival was even worse. We worked for weeks from eight in the morning till eight at night in preparation and to take down that contrived fall carnival/ fundraiser. Boys wished for death. There was also a dry-cleaning service that they operated somewhere in town, which was supposedly much better than any job on campus - even kitchen duty.
Getting off from work crew meant school during the day, and considerably less work. Some sadist there created a t-shirt caste system that involved wearing either a blue t-shirt or green t-shirt. "Blue shirts" could talk, receive letters (which were opened and read first), talk to their parents, and possibly go off campus.
"Green shirts" were allowed into school, but that was about it. No speaking, sitting, or anything but working or reading LDS literature. A "green shirt" was forced to read the Book of Mormon, in particular the first 22 chapters. We were interviewed by one of the four full-time Mormon missionaries that worked there and had to paraphrase all of "First Nephi" before receiving a blue t-shirt. What good derives from reading the Book of Mormon under duress is anyone's guess, but I did it. I had to.
I had to go to church and seminary too.
It turns out that any form of decadence - smoking a little grass, telling your math teacher to sit on it, being gay or bi-curious, sexually assaulting a family member or young girl - is curable by a little hard work, tough love, and Mormon doctrine. Boys with "sexual issues" are housed together in what could only be some cruel showing of satire.
They were constantly being caught jerking each other off onto each other, or, more tragically, assaulting younger boys. Whatever it was, they would be shoved into blankets and thrown on work crew. On Tuesday night they would meet with all the boys with sexual issues and provide remedies like IcyHot on the penis to stifle homosexual urges.
I was kept there until they couldn't keep me any longer, and on my 18th birthday I walked out the front doors into a cold October morning with nowhere to go and nothing but my freedom. If I didn't experience it myself I would not believe a place like this exists. A Mormon gulag.
How do they get away with all of the abuse? The forced religion, the stifling of freedom of speech? Was it legal to prevent us from reporting abuse to authorities, or to restrain us with ropes, wool blankets, and duct tape? Is it legal to force young boys to talk about
masturbation with Mormon clergy and missionaries? How does all of this go unnoticed? We were young and naive and didn't know that most of what they did to us was illegal. Buttars was famous for telling us that we had only three rights: food, safety, and shelter. They failed to even live up to those standards.
Besides being callow, we hardly had the chance to report any abuse. They instruct parents to ignore any claims of abuse from their children. They call any complaints from children a manipulation tool - "fear factor" - and instruct parents to be wary of the "tactic" they say they encounter most.
There were also no phones to call the police. No nurses or medical examiners to talk to. No government authorities to check in on us. Incongruously, this Orwellian facility desperately needs government oversight.
Sen. Buttars said it all when he told a reporter, "What sets us apart is that we're the only residential treatment facility that doesn't seek or accept government funding. If we did, they'd control us."
Reprinted with permission from Orato.com
As we watch the Mormon Church celebrate people like Senator Buttars (he of the "gays are more dangerous than ricin and bin Laden combined" fame) and desperately to keep gays as second class citizens, I though it appropriate to remind you that as clean-cut and sincere as they seem, there is an ugly underbelly to the Church of Latter Day Saints. (btw, please check out exmormon.org if you are considering converting, or if you have any questions about the LDS. the stories on that site are heartbreaking, but the courage the posters have displayed in taking control of their own lives is truly inspiring.)
From Daily Kos
This story is about Eric Norwood's personal experiences at a place called The Utah Boys Ranch, which models itself as a "tough-love" prep-school, but while Eric was there, he witnessed some unbelievable atrocities. It is a Mormon-funded and staffed facility, and religious indoctrination is a fundamental aspect of the school. There was sexual, physical, and emotional abuse, suicide, staff corruption, and escape. A major Utah political figure, Senator Chris Buttars, was the executive director while Eric was there
His filthy digit tasted like rust and fish. "I can hurt you without leaving any marks," Brent growled as I writhed in agony on the ground. I struggled for breath as he mounted my back, put his finger in my mouth, and pulled back on my cheek, fish-hooking me. The pain was incredible. I tried to beg him to stop, but the words would not come.
After he finished beating and bludgeoning submissiveness into me, he pulled me up by the rope that was lassoed around my waist. The wool army blanket I had fashioned as a skirt had shifted askew and I stood there in my boxers bleeding from my nose, humiliated.
My green Utah Boys Ranch t-shirt had been ridiculously stretched out and looked more like a low cut blouse. I loosened the noose around my waist and pulled the itchy blanket through the loop and folded it over so it looked like a brown bath towel secured by a belt. He wasn't satisfied, he wanted more. I just wanted out of this classroom. I started to think about how I got here.
The Utah Boys Ranch appears to be a kind of tough-love school with a Christian-esque undertow. My parents thought as much when they employed its services in hopes of corralling their spiritually wayward son.
[...] this is background into how Eric wound up at the Utah Boys Ranch. It seems like pretty typical 15 year old stuff to me.
The first person I met in Utah was Senator Chris Buttars. I had no idea who he was until that point.
All I knew was that he was to be feared, and I was scared to death of him from the moment I first saw him.
"Sit down," he squawked in a loud, high pitched, galling voice that sounded like a cross between a buzzard and an old cowboy. He continued to make it very clear that I was at his mercy. He told me who he was - politically - and the influence he had. If I ever wanted to leave I was to do what he said. "How old are you?"
"Fifteen," I mumbled.
"Three years might not be enough for you. I can have a judge order you to be here until you are 21," he croaked. With that he sent me off to be "changed and put on work crew."
I was led down a long hall of doors with nameplates. I had no clue what kind of place this was. I didn't see any cows or horses...no sign of what I thought a "ranch" would resemble. Paul took me into a small room that was no bigger than a broom closet, which was stacked to the ceiling with three colors of cloth, blue, green and brown. There were green t-shirts, blue t-shirts, and blue jeans.
There were also brown army wool blankets, and I remember thinking that I didn't want to sleep under such a coarse covering before I was told to "put it on." I was told to wrap a thick, itchy blanket around my waist like a towel and wear it like a dress.
I was then given a "leash" made of climbing rope and what I think was a square knot to tie around my waist.
I had never imagined being tethered and walked like a dog, but here I was, being walked like a dog towards a cluster of about 12 other boys. They were lined up facing a wall while two large men in red sweatshirts watched them from a couple of chairs off to the side.
Some of the boys had camouflage pants on, a few others wore dresses. I wondered how long I was to be in this blanket dress. I was later told that it was so I wouldn't run away - and they were right - I literally could not run in this humiliating getup. I could barely get a full stride walking.
That's when I saw Brent - or 'Captain America,' as he was called disparagingly - for the first time. My leash was handed off to him, but he told me to wrap it around my waist and go join the group of young men who were standing with their noses touching the wall, all spread out about arms length from each other.
I turned to the boy who was standing to my right and asked him how long he had been here, but before I could get my question all the way out, my forehead careened into the carpeted wall in front of me. A sharp pain stabbed the back of my head, and suddenly bad breath filled my nostrils. "Are you talking on my work crew, boy?" a red-shirted man screamed at me.
My head was ringing. I was still trying to piece together what had just happened when I looked behind me and massaged the pain in my head. Suddenly my legs fell out from underneath me and I was on my back.
He had just slammed my forehead into the wall, and now he had put his foot behind mine and pushed me, sending me to the floor flat on my back.
He stood over me and bawled, "Don't look at me. Don't look around. Don't you MOVE without permission! You don't do anything without permission! If you talk, I think you are talking about running away, and I will restrain you. Do you understand?" I nodded. I knew then that I had to get out of this place. I wasn't going to last here.
It was only my second week on work crew when Neil Westwood refused to turn his back to Brent and place his nose on the wall, which is what the command "face the wall" plainly meant. It was a Mexican standoff for a few moments. Stunningly it seemed like Brent was going to let Neil get his way. I had never seen an older boy in a pissing contest with a staff member before. The younger kids refused commands, but they were always quickly thumped into docility.
Neil was a big kid, a lot bigger than me - probably 230 pounds or so, and over six-feet tall, but dispelled any image of toughness with his glasses, disproportionately small arms, and frizzy hairdo. Neil was as obnoxious as he was an easy target, but I still can't believe that no one reacted when Brent stood up in a flash of rage and chucked a full, unopened gallon of milk at Neil's face from about five feet away, crumbling him to a pitiful puddle of tears, blood, and non-fat milk.
The work crew was depraved. When they didn't have us facing the wall for hours at a time we were digging ditches with spoons, only to fill them back in again.
We made huge piles of heavy rocks taken from the field, the field that both surrounded and contained us, only to be told to move the massive mound to another location. They worked us in ways redolent of Stalin's gulags.
There was an agonizing week of all-day sod laying - with bits of mud and grass sticking to the inside of my wool dress - in preparation for some ceremony the work crew boys weren't privy to. The Scarecrow Festival was even worse. We worked for weeks from eight in the morning till eight at night in preparation and to take down that contrived fall carnival/ fundraiser. Boys wished for death. There was also a dry-cleaning service that they operated somewhere in town, which was supposedly much better than any job on campus - even kitchen duty.
Getting off from work crew meant school during the day, and considerably less work. Some sadist there created a t-shirt caste system that involved wearing either a blue t-shirt or green t-shirt. "Blue shirts" could talk, receive letters (which were opened and read first), talk to their parents, and possibly go off campus.
"Green shirts" were allowed into school, but that was about it. No speaking, sitting, or anything but working or reading LDS literature. A "green shirt" was forced to read the Book of Mormon, in particular the first 22 chapters. We were interviewed by one of the four full-time Mormon missionaries that worked there and had to paraphrase all of "First Nephi" before receiving a blue t-shirt. What good derives from reading the Book of Mormon under duress is anyone's guess, but I did it. I had to.
I had to go to church and seminary too.
It turns out that any form of decadence - smoking a little grass, telling your math teacher to sit on it, being gay or bi-curious, sexually assaulting a family member or young girl - is curable by a little hard work, tough love, and Mormon doctrine. Boys with "sexual issues" are housed together in what could only be some cruel showing of satire.
They were constantly being caught jerking each other off onto each other, or, more tragically, assaulting younger boys. Whatever it was, they would be shoved into blankets and thrown on work crew. On Tuesday night they would meet with all the boys with sexual issues and provide remedies like IcyHot on the penis to stifle homosexual urges.
I was kept there until they couldn't keep me any longer, and on my 18th birthday I walked out the front doors into a cold October morning with nowhere to go and nothing but my freedom. If I didn't experience it myself I would not believe a place like this exists. A Mormon gulag.
How do they get away with all of the abuse? The forced religion, the stifling of freedom of speech? Was it legal to prevent us from reporting abuse to authorities, or to restrain us with ropes, wool blankets, and duct tape? Is it legal to force young boys to talk about
masturbation with Mormon clergy and missionaries? How does all of this go unnoticed? We were young and naive and didn't know that most of what they did to us was illegal. Buttars was famous for telling us that we had only three rights: food, safety, and shelter. They failed to even live up to those standards.
Besides being callow, we hardly had the chance to report any abuse. They instruct parents to ignore any claims of abuse from their children. They call any complaints from children a manipulation tool - "fear factor" - and instruct parents to be wary of the "tactic" they say they encounter most.
There were also no phones to call the police. No nurses or medical examiners to talk to. No government authorities to check in on us. Incongruously, this Orwellian facility desperately needs government oversight.
Sen. Buttars said it all when he told a reporter, "What sets us apart is that we're the only residential treatment facility that doesn't seek or accept government funding. If we did, they'd control us."
Reprinted with permission from Orato.com
In Actual Persecution News
persecution, atheism, atheist, testify, testimony, oath, arkansas, christian,god
Atheists in Arkansas are not allowed to testify in court, though the Supreme Court ruled such prohibitions unconstitutional in 1961. (big shout out to Unreasonable Faith for posting this first.)
Would anyone like to tell me how persecuted christians are in the US again?
Atheists in Arkansas are not allowed to testify in court, though the Supreme Court ruled such prohibitions unconstitutional in 1961. (big shout out to Unreasonable Faith for posting this first.)
Would anyone like to tell me how persecuted christians are in the US again?
Thursday, February 19, 2009
The Post Rapture Survival Guide
I cannot believe I have heretofore missed the Post Rapture Survival Guide. I mean, clearly, I will not be raptured, therefore this practical guide addressing such issues as post rapture economics and health concerns is a must-read! (Chances are, if you're reading this, you're not getting raptured, either, so pay attention.)
Money
Hard currency will become obsolete. This is no surprise, as banks and governments have been working to eliminate currency, coin money and paper transactions for decades. it's the jews. and possibly the illuminati. with the help of the free masons. Currency and coin is expensive to produce, lends itself readily for drug trafficking and, with high tech equipment, is too easily counterfeited. Banks desire to eliminate the teller position as an expense item, and with the elimination of paper checks and currency, all financial transactions can be handled with a computer. The debit card will become the tool for all personal financial transactions. does this happen after every child in the world disappears simultaneously, or is the rapture not happening for at least another 20 years? cause last time i checked, cash was still pretty popular.
However, at some point after the rapture, probably right after the two witnesses are killed, why not before? everyone will be required to get a mark on their right hand or forehead in order to buy and sell. Do not, do not, do not under any circumstances participate by receiving this mark. this paragraph is pages and pages down from the top of the guide. you would think if it were that important not to get the mark, you might want to mention it sooner. what if i already have the mark? All those who receive this mark known as "the mark of the beast" are doomed for eternity. so if you have the mark already, you have seriously wasted your time by reading to this point, and may as well quite now. By taking this mark you are swearing allegiance to the anti-christ. oops!You may as well attempt to enjoy life as best you can because eternity for you will be hell. possibly the best sentence ever written. fuck it, man. do some drugs, steal a little, lie, fornicate as much as you can, cause you screwed! It is at this point that God will have separated His followers from Satan's followers. Those who have taken the mark will persecute those without the mark. do i want the mark or not? God will render judgment on those with the mark by inflicting them with a disgusting looking and very painful ulcer covering their bodies. seems kind of anticlimactic after ETERNITY IN HELL was mentioned as the punishment.
So how can a person without the mark survive and still buy and sell? Again, this will almost be impossible hope you have lots of canned goods, but there will be people who are part of the anti-christ's regime who don't believe in the anti-christ they're burning for all eternity anyway; they are just "survivors" who pick the "winner" what's with the sarcastiquotes? and seek to profit from that relationship. Therefore, save up for yourself gold; gold has always had value as money and always will, even in a cashless society. where the fuck am i supposed to get gold if i can't buy and sell anything? clearly i wasn't prepared for the rapture, or i would have gotten saved and been in heaven already. once the rapture happens, where am i supposed to get all that gold. this is like that steve martin skit- "first, get a million dollars . . . " Identify one of these profiteers and seek to purchase food and living supplies from him. how am i supposed to tell the "survivors" from the antichrist's faithful servants, exactly? this guide is surprisingly light on specifics. However, don't ever disclose to him how much gold you have and where it is. You want to be more valuable to him as a dealer than as a bounty. not bad advice. if the rapture doesn't happen, it's good advice for budding drug dealers, as well.
By the way, you will have a price on your head for not taking the mark. by the way? seems like the sort of thing you might want to mention first! Obviously you won't be living an open life, as you will be in hiding somewhere at a remote location or in the forest on the outskirts of a large city."the forest on the outskirt of a major city"? Please list for me all the large cities surrounded by forests. Your only goal will be to eat to live and hope to escape the militia hunting for you and those like you. Should you get caught, your fate will be either death or slavery. again, death and slavery are things you should mention sooner rather than later.
If you receive this manual before the rapture and plan to be around after the rapture why would i plan that? he makes it sound like someone is thinking "yeah, fuck it, all that death and slavery and torture sounds like a good time", then start storing up food and living supplies and put them into hiding in some remote and difficult to access area. You should include weaponry to defend yourself and medical supplies as part of your living supplies. what if i didn't get this guide before the rapture? what then?
Safety
This era will be the most violent of times in the history of the world. Death, brutality and destruction will be part of everyday life. One of the defining characteristics of the last days following the rapture will be a lack of peace. as opposed to when? There will be civil wars throughout the world: people will kill one another indiscriminately. Random acts of violence will fill people with fear. Car-jackings, home invasions, drive by shootings, residents of certain urban areas won't notice the difference and bombings will all increase with an intensity that will leave people with absolutely no sense of security.
In order to survive this time, you will need to remove yourself from society and live in a remote area that is difficult to access. Getting together with a group of like-minded people would provide additional support and safety. unless they're the antichrist's faithful servants, in which case you've told the antichrist where you'll be hiding. with all your gold.
As mentioned earlier, stock up on food, medicines, living supplies, weaponry and gold. You will need enough for 7 years. unless you read this guide about 2 years in, in which case don't waste your gold on the extra 2 years. Don't plan on being able to supplement your food with hunting and fishing because the stocks of wild animals and fish will have been depleted and destroyed by the 3 1/2 year worldwide drought and three successive meteor-like or comet-like objects that strike the earth sometime after the rapture. twinkies it is.The 3 1/2 year drought wouldn't the 3.5 year drought also kill the domesticated animals and all crops planted, as well? is anybody eating anything? can we resort to cannibalism? is brought on by the two witnesses. The first object from outer space to strike the earth will destroy 1/3 of all trees and all the green grass on earth. so, no golf courses and forget about apples, peaches, pears, figs, etc. The second object, more like a meteor more like a meteor than the first "object"?, strikes the sea and destroys 1/3 of all sea creatures and 1/3 of all shipping. what about pleasure boating? fishing boats? The third object turns 1/3 of all fresh water poisonous and kills many people. i imagine it would kill a lot of freshwater fish and amphibians, as well. not to mention wild animals, domesticated animals, birds, and well everything.
Needless to say, all of this will also seriously deplete the food supplies for the world's population, causing food prices to skyrocket. Those people in the world who never before missed a meal or worried about food will become very familiar with hunger pangs and the feeling of going without food for long periods of time. otherwise known as starving. This will be one of the causes of the increased violence as people become more self centered, short-tempered, and competitive for the food sources in short supply. first of all, it won't be such a problem as the young, the old, the sick and the skinny will die off pretty quickly once the food runs short. what will be left is formerly fat guys in their twenties who aren't too picky about cannibalism. As Jesus spoke to His disciples about these days, He said, "people will betray one another and hate one another...the love of many will grow cold."
Health Concerns
Prior to the rapture, the world experienced an increase in health-related catastrophes, an increase in new infectious diseases and an increase in the return of diseases thought to have been eradicated or brought under control. The past two decades have brought on AIDS, EBOLA virus, flesh-eating bacteria, the return of tuberculosis, incurable gonorrhea, herpes and many other virtually incurable sexually transmitted diseases. wtf is this asshat talking about? ebola was first recorded in 1976, 32 years ago. AIDS first appeared around 1982, 27 years ago. Louis Pastuer first isolated flesh eating bacteria in 1884, well over 20 years ago. while it is possible that gonorrhea may become incurable in the future due to resistence to antibiotics, that has not happened yet.
After the rapture, things do not get better, as one quarter of the world's population will die as the result of wars, famine and plague. not to mention poisonous water, meteors, objects like meteors and objects more like meteors. Sometime after the two witnesses are murdered and after people are required to take the mark on the right hand or forehead, there will be a terrible plague causing a loathsome and malignant ulcer on the bodies of those who have taken the mark. which is punishment for taking the mark. so is eternity in hell. This will be a very ugly i'm sure vanity will be everyone's major concern about this.and very painful sore that will make life miserable for those who have it. more miserable than a world with poisonous water, a 3.5 year drought, objects like and more like meteors hitting the earth and 1/3 of all shipping being destroyed?
In addition to all this, because of the poor economic situation worldwide and the 3 1/2 year drought that depletes the world's supply of water, sanitation practices will deteriorate even in what were advanced nations in Europe and North America. we'll all be stinky. With the short supply of water, there won't be sufficient water for flushing toilets, taking baths, washing clothes and transporting wastewater to treatment facilities. i'm betting that after the 3.5 year drought and the rampant cannibalism, water treatment facilities won't be our biggest concern. This will result in the increase of typhus, cholera, salmonella and E.coli infections.
Therefore, since you have decided to reject Christ's offer to join in the rapture, heehee your concern is how to maintain good health in the post rapture era. and how to avoid being eaten by formerly fat 20 year olds. You must build a supply of multiple vitamins with particular emphasis on anti-oxidants such as C and E and minerals. BWAHAHAHAHAHA. why oxidize while you wait to burn in hell? It will also be necessary to have a supply of disinfectants, particularly one that can be added to water to make it potable. i think we call that bleach.
Above all, do not accept the mark of the beast on your right hand or forehead. do not, do not, do not. If you do take the mark then nothing can be done for you—you will suffer the malignant ulcer making the rest of your life almost unbearable. and then you will burn for ETERNITY IN HELL. nope, he keeps going on about the 3.5 year long canker sore. Did you ever have a canker sore in your mouth? If so, then you know how painful that one little canker sore was. Now think of having canker sores all over your body, on your genitalia wow!, in your mouth. Think how painful and unbearable your life will be. Then follow that misery with eternity in hell. Don't take that mark. don't do it, man!
Money
Hard currency will become obsolete. This is no surprise, as banks and governments have been working to eliminate currency, coin money and paper transactions for decades. it's the jews. and possibly the illuminati. with the help of the free masons. Currency and coin is expensive to produce, lends itself readily for drug trafficking and, with high tech equipment, is too easily counterfeited. Banks desire to eliminate the teller position as an expense item, and with the elimination of paper checks and currency, all financial transactions can be handled with a computer. The debit card will become the tool for all personal financial transactions. does this happen after every child in the world disappears simultaneously, or is the rapture not happening for at least another 20 years? cause last time i checked, cash was still pretty popular.
However, at some point after the rapture, probably right after the two witnesses are killed, why not before? everyone will be required to get a mark on their right hand or forehead in order to buy and sell. Do not, do not, do not under any circumstances participate by receiving this mark. this paragraph is pages and pages down from the top of the guide. you would think if it were that important not to get the mark, you might want to mention it sooner. what if i already have the mark? All those who receive this mark known as "the mark of the beast" are doomed for eternity. so if you have the mark already, you have seriously wasted your time by reading to this point, and may as well quite now. By taking this mark you are swearing allegiance to the anti-christ. oops!You may as well attempt to enjoy life as best you can because eternity for you will be hell. possibly the best sentence ever written. fuck it, man. do some drugs, steal a little, lie, fornicate as much as you can, cause you screwed! It is at this point that God will have separated His followers from Satan's followers. Those who have taken the mark will persecute those without the mark. do i want the mark or not? God will render judgment on those with the mark by inflicting them with a disgusting looking and very painful ulcer covering their bodies. seems kind of anticlimactic after ETERNITY IN HELL was mentioned as the punishment.
So how can a person without the mark survive and still buy and sell? Again, this will almost be impossible hope you have lots of canned goods, but there will be people who are part of the anti-christ's regime who don't believe in the anti-christ they're burning for all eternity anyway; they are just "survivors" who pick the "winner" what's with the sarcastiquotes? and seek to profit from that relationship. Therefore, save up for yourself gold; gold has always had value as money and always will, even in a cashless society. where the fuck am i supposed to get gold if i can't buy and sell anything? clearly i wasn't prepared for the rapture, or i would have gotten saved and been in heaven already. once the rapture happens, where am i supposed to get all that gold. this is like that steve martin skit- "first, get a million dollars . . . " Identify one of these profiteers and seek to purchase food and living supplies from him. how am i supposed to tell the "survivors" from the antichrist's faithful servants, exactly? this guide is surprisingly light on specifics. However, don't ever disclose to him how much gold you have and where it is. You want to be more valuable to him as a dealer than as a bounty. not bad advice. if the rapture doesn't happen, it's good advice for budding drug dealers, as well.
By the way, you will have a price on your head for not taking the mark. by the way? seems like the sort of thing you might want to mention first! Obviously you won't be living an open life, as you will be in hiding somewhere at a remote location or in the forest on the outskirts of a large city."the forest on the outskirt of a major city"? Please list for me all the large cities surrounded by forests. Your only goal will be to eat to live and hope to escape the militia hunting for you and those like you. Should you get caught, your fate will be either death or slavery. again, death and slavery are things you should mention sooner rather than later.
If you receive this manual before the rapture and plan to be around after the rapture why would i plan that? he makes it sound like someone is thinking "yeah, fuck it, all that death and slavery and torture sounds like a good time", then start storing up food and living supplies and put them into hiding in some remote and difficult to access area. You should include weaponry to defend yourself and medical supplies as part of your living supplies. what if i didn't get this guide before the rapture? what then?
Safety
This era will be the most violent of times in the history of the world. Death, brutality and destruction will be part of everyday life. One of the defining characteristics of the last days following the rapture will be a lack of peace. as opposed to when? There will be civil wars throughout the world: people will kill one another indiscriminately. Random acts of violence will fill people with fear. Car-jackings, home invasions, drive by shootings, residents of certain urban areas won't notice the difference and bombings will all increase with an intensity that will leave people with absolutely no sense of security.
In order to survive this time, you will need to remove yourself from society and live in a remote area that is difficult to access. Getting together with a group of like-minded people would provide additional support and safety. unless they're the antichrist's faithful servants, in which case you've told the antichrist where you'll be hiding. with all your gold.
As mentioned earlier, stock up on food, medicines, living supplies, weaponry and gold. You will need enough for 7 years. unless you read this guide about 2 years in, in which case don't waste your gold on the extra 2 years. Don't plan on being able to supplement your food with hunting and fishing because the stocks of wild animals and fish will have been depleted and destroyed by the 3 1/2 year worldwide drought and three successive meteor-like or comet-like objects that strike the earth sometime after the rapture. twinkies it is.The 3 1/2 year drought wouldn't the 3.5 year drought also kill the domesticated animals and all crops planted, as well? is anybody eating anything? can we resort to cannibalism? is brought on by the two witnesses. The first object from outer space to strike the earth will destroy 1/3 of all trees and all the green grass on earth. so, no golf courses and forget about apples, peaches, pears, figs, etc. The second object, more like a meteor more like a meteor than the first "object"?, strikes the sea and destroys 1/3 of all sea creatures and 1/3 of all shipping. what about pleasure boating? fishing boats? The third object turns 1/3 of all fresh water poisonous and kills many people. i imagine it would kill a lot of freshwater fish and amphibians, as well. not to mention wild animals, domesticated animals, birds, and well everything.
Needless to say, all of this will also seriously deplete the food supplies for the world's population, causing food prices to skyrocket. Those people in the world who never before missed a meal or worried about food will become very familiar with hunger pangs and the feeling of going without food for long periods of time. otherwise known as starving. This will be one of the causes of the increased violence as people become more self centered, short-tempered, and competitive for the food sources in short supply. first of all, it won't be such a problem as the young, the old, the sick and the skinny will die off pretty quickly once the food runs short. what will be left is formerly fat guys in their twenties who aren't too picky about cannibalism. As Jesus spoke to His disciples about these days, He said, "people will betray one another and hate one another...the love of many will grow cold."
Health Concerns
Prior to the rapture, the world experienced an increase in health-related catastrophes, an increase in new infectious diseases and an increase in the return of diseases thought to have been eradicated or brought under control. The past two decades have brought on AIDS, EBOLA virus, flesh-eating bacteria, the return of tuberculosis, incurable gonorrhea, herpes and many other virtually incurable sexually transmitted diseases. wtf is this asshat talking about? ebola was first recorded in 1976, 32 years ago. AIDS first appeared around 1982, 27 years ago. Louis Pastuer first isolated flesh eating bacteria in 1884, well over 20 years ago. while it is possible that gonorrhea may become incurable in the future due to resistence to antibiotics, that has not happened yet.
After the rapture, things do not get better, as one quarter of the world's population will die as the result of wars, famine and plague. not to mention poisonous water, meteors, objects like meteors and objects more like meteors. Sometime after the two witnesses are murdered and after people are required to take the mark on the right hand or forehead, there will be a terrible plague causing a loathsome and malignant ulcer on the bodies of those who have taken the mark. which is punishment for taking the mark. so is eternity in hell. This will be a very ugly i'm sure vanity will be everyone's major concern about this.and very painful sore that will make life miserable for those who have it. more miserable than a world with poisonous water, a 3.5 year drought, objects like and more like meteors hitting the earth and 1/3 of all shipping being destroyed?
In addition to all this, because of the poor economic situation worldwide and the 3 1/2 year drought that depletes the world's supply of water, sanitation practices will deteriorate even in what were advanced nations in Europe and North America. we'll all be stinky. With the short supply of water, there won't be sufficient water for flushing toilets, taking baths, washing clothes and transporting wastewater to treatment facilities. i'm betting that after the 3.5 year drought and the rampant cannibalism, water treatment facilities won't be our biggest concern. This will result in the increase of typhus, cholera, salmonella and E.coli infections.
Therefore, since you have decided to reject Christ's offer to join in the rapture, heehee your concern is how to maintain good health in the post rapture era. and how to avoid being eaten by formerly fat 20 year olds. You must build a supply of multiple vitamins with particular emphasis on anti-oxidants such as C and E and minerals. BWAHAHAHAHAHA. why oxidize while you wait to burn in hell? It will also be necessary to have a supply of disinfectants, particularly one that can be added to water to make it potable. i think we call that bleach.
Above all, do not accept the mark of the beast on your right hand or forehead. do not, do not, do not. If you do take the mark then nothing can be done for you—you will suffer the malignant ulcer making the rest of your life almost unbearable. and then you will burn for ETERNITY IN HELL. nope, he keeps going on about the 3.5 year long canker sore. Did you ever have a canker sore in your mouth? If so, then you know how painful that one little canker sore was. Now think of having canker sores all over your body, on your genitalia wow!, in your mouth. Think how painful and unbearable your life will be. Then follow that misery with eternity in hell. Don't take that mark. don't do it, man!
Rapture Ready Continues to Prove that Fundamentalism Makes You a Bigoted Asshole
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Senator Chris Buttars of Utah (of course) has yet again stepped outside the lines to say the most hateful things anyone can think of. I've reading about this all day, but the folks at Rapture Ready added their special little spin to it.
Ron4Jesus: Gays 'greatest threat to America'
Buttars: He called the gay-rights movement "probably the greatest threat to America," likened gay activists to Muslim radicals and dubbed same-sex relationships "abominations."
Now Sen. Chris Buttars finds himself in a familiar place: under fire amid demands he step down.Last year, the NAACP called for Buttars to resign after comments he made on the Senate floor about a complex school-funding bill, saying, "This baby is black . . . It's a dark, ugly thing."
But Buttars kept his seat and won re-election in November."It is obvious that he believes he can say and do anything that he wishes without any consequences," said Jeanetta Williams, president of the NAACP's Salt Lake branch. "His words -- as before --are despicable."
Buttars' latest remarks come from an interview with documentary filmmaker Reed Cowan that aired on ABC 4 this week. Buttars told Cowan the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community doesn't want "equality, they want superiority.""It's the beginning of the end," the West Jordan Republican said. "Oh, it's worse than that. Sure. Sodom and Gomorrah was localized. This is worldwide."
That's right, kids. Gays are more dangerous than muslim extremists, all other brands of terrorists, nuclear warfare, global warming, drugs, gang violence, disease, the economic crisis, war and tainted products from China. I'm not sure why I haven't noticed this before. Apparently, I'm blind.
Anywhere other than Rapture Ready, or within the DNA, this sort of thing brings outrage and condemnation.
Candlelight responds: I pray he stands his ground. Because Jesus loves the bigotry.
Luke 10:27 (KJV)
And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
His Bride chimes in with: Sexual sin and abortion have proven to be great threats to our country. I guess I would have to say that Idolatry is our greatest threat. It is the sin that is behind each of these other sins. We have worshipped the creature instead of the Creator.
That's right. Me having sex before marriage was way worse than 9/11. Clearly. In fact, it may even have caused 9/11.
John 8:1-11
1Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Gabby (under the fig tree) couldn't agree more: I agree, His Bride. I personally believe that Pride is behind these other sins, also. Pride and Idolatry are closely related.
Matt 5:7
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy
Ron4Jesus (OP) find teh evul in the most unlikely of places: Yes this country has [been worshipping the creature, not the Creator]!!!!!!!!! if you use that many exclamation points at once, you probably don't have a valid point. Just look at American Idol the name says it all. i'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with idolatry. i hate the show, but i don't think it qualifies as idolatry. I am no fan of it at all, but some people get so attracted to it like a daytime soap opera. daytime soaps are idolatry also?
Matt 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
4GodIsJust is all about the judgey: I too, think that worshiping the beast rather the Creator is our greatest threat... This leads to well all sin, Sexual sin, abortion and Idle is he referring perhaps to sloth? also a deadly sin, but since deadly sins are a Catholic invention, you wouldn't think a bunch of fundys would be into that. worship.. Blasphmey of the Holy spirit is the unforgiveable sin, which for some reason when I think of this I see Idle worship what? that's so confused, i can't even make fun of it. but mainly Homosexuality (gays, and Lezbienism thanks for clearing that up. and, lesbianism.) I think because it is so preverse as opposed to reverse, perhaps? and it degregates well now we'll have to regregate it! the soul so badly and it is slapping the Almighty in face now i imagine gays beginning sex by slapping a lifesize buddy christ statue in the face. kinky!and saying You did not make me good well enough, WHY?? you're the one saying gays weren't made right. gays are fine with the way they're made. I pray too, that he stand's apostrophe abuse his ground, and he stays safe... but fuck the gays.
Matt 6:6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Gabby (under the fig tree) seems most upset that gays are out of the closet: What I've noticed about homosexuality is it seems to be an 'in your face' sin. as opposed to murder, which is so quiet, and hard to notice. asshat. It seems that that life-style promotes open rebellion against God's order. unlike murderers and thieves, which are right in line with what god commanded. Most sins aren't something that people brag and boast about you people are boasting about disobeying christ's direct command to love thy neighbor, aren't you? ~ but homosexuality seems to be one in particular that results in an open and boasting attitude. again. In Sodom and Gomorrah it was the same. The more rampart rampant? the sins becomes either sins become or sin becomes, but not sins becomes, the bolder the people who practice it seem to become. goddamn them for not hiding in the closet! Even non-Christians are, at the very least, ashamed of most sin. really? what an odd statement. i don't even believe in sin. i believe in morals and ethics, but that's a whole 'nother issue, now isnt' it? What I mean by this is they don't publicly boast about them. i'm pretty sure living an openly gay lifestyle is not "publicly boasting", unless wearing a wedding ring and walking in public with your spouse and children is publicly boasting. But homosexuality doesn't seem to be one of those. As in it makes the very heart of those who practice it openly, boldly rebellious and encourages society to partake of it. this lady is just nuts. When's the last time you saw a protest with people out applauding say lying, or cheating...or stealing? maybe because lying, cheating and stealing are entirely unlike being gay? Yet, homosexuals take this sin take it? and it seems to make one bolder in practicing it ~ like I said, an 'in your face' sin. poor gabby, having to look at the gays. It just seems to me that this particular sin stands alone as far as rebellion against God. yeah. uh huh. you think about this WAY too much, babe. Just thinking out loud on here... i'm not sure "thinking" is the word you're looking for. I've noticed that homosexuality seems to bring people to openly shake their fists at God. another terribly amusing image, if incredibly inaccurate and based solely in one twisted moron's imagination.
so there you have it: proof positive that fundamentalism makes you a bigoted asshole, and fundys have no fucking idea, or just don't care, what their lord and savior actually said.
Matthew 7:1-5
1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Senator Chris Buttars of Utah (of course) has yet again stepped outside the lines to say the most hateful things anyone can think of. I've reading about this all day, but the folks at Rapture Ready added their special little spin to it.
Ron4Jesus: Gays 'greatest threat to America'
Buttars: He called the gay-rights movement "probably the greatest threat to America," likened gay activists to Muslim radicals and dubbed same-sex relationships "abominations."
Now Sen. Chris Buttars finds himself in a familiar place: under fire amid demands he step down.Last year, the NAACP called for Buttars to resign after comments he made on the Senate floor about a complex school-funding bill, saying, "This baby is black . . . It's a dark, ugly thing."
But Buttars kept his seat and won re-election in November."It is obvious that he believes he can say and do anything that he wishes without any consequences," said Jeanetta Williams, president of the NAACP's Salt Lake branch. "His words -- as before --are despicable."
Buttars' latest remarks come from an interview with documentary filmmaker Reed Cowan that aired on ABC 4 this week. Buttars told Cowan the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community doesn't want "equality, they want superiority.""It's the beginning of the end," the West Jordan Republican said. "Oh, it's worse than that. Sure. Sodom and Gomorrah was localized. This is worldwide."
That's right, kids. Gays are more dangerous than muslim extremists, all other brands of terrorists, nuclear warfare, global warming, drugs, gang violence, disease, the economic crisis, war and tainted products from China. I'm not sure why I haven't noticed this before. Apparently, I'm blind.
Anywhere other than Rapture Ready, or within the DNA, this sort of thing brings outrage and condemnation.
Candlelight responds: I pray he stands his ground. Because Jesus loves the bigotry.
Luke 10:27 (KJV)
And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
His Bride chimes in with: Sexual sin and abortion have proven to be great threats to our country. I guess I would have to say that Idolatry is our greatest threat. It is the sin that is behind each of these other sins. We have worshipped the creature instead of the Creator.
That's right. Me having sex before marriage was way worse than 9/11. Clearly. In fact, it may even have caused 9/11.
John 8:1-11
1Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Gabby (under the fig tree) couldn't agree more: I agree, His Bride. I personally believe that Pride is behind these other sins, also. Pride and Idolatry are closely related.
Matt 5:7
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy
Ron4Jesus (OP) find teh evul in the most unlikely of places: Yes this country has [been worshipping the creature, not the Creator]!!!!!!!!! if you use that many exclamation points at once, you probably don't have a valid point. Just look at American Idol the name says it all. i'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with idolatry. i hate the show, but i don't think it qualifies as idolatry. I am no fan of it at all, but some people get so attracted to it like a daytime soap opera. daytime soaps are idolatry also?
Matt 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
4GodIsJust is all about the judgey: I too, think that worshiping the beast rather the Creator is our greatest threat... This leads to well all sin, Sexual sin, abortion and Idle is he referring perhaps to sloth? also a deadly sin, but since deadly sins are a Catholic invention, you wouldn't think a bunch of fundys would be into that. worship.. Blasphmey of the Holy spirit is the unforgiveable sin, which for some reason when I think of this I see Idle worship what? that's so confused, i can't even make fun of it. but mainly Homosexuality (gays, and Lezbienism thanks for clearing that up. and, lesbianism.) I think because it is so preverse as opposed to reverse, perhaps? and it degregates well now we'll have to regregate it! the soul so badly and it is slapping the Almighty in face now i imagine gays beginning sex by slapping a lifesize buddy christ statue in the face. kinky!and saying You did not make me good well enough, WHY?? you're the one saying gays weren't made right. gays are fine with the way they're made. I pray too, that he stand's apostrophe abuse his ground, and he stays safe... but fuck the gays.
Matt 6:6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Gabby (under the fig tree) seems most upset that gays are out of the closet: What I've noticed about homosexuality is it seems to be an 'in your face' sin. as opposed to murder, which is so quiet, and hard to notice. asshat. It seems that that life-style promotes open rebellion against God's order. unlike murderers and thieves, which are right in line with what god commanded. Most sins aren't something that people brag and boast about you people are boasting about disobeying christ's direct command to love thy neighbor, aren't you? ~ but homosexuality seems to be one in particular that results in an open and boasting attitude. again. In Sodom and Gomorrah it was the same. The more rampart rampant? the sins becomes either sins become or sin becomes, but not sins becomes, the bolder the people who practice it seem to become. goddamn them for not hiding in the closet! Even non-Christians are, at the very least, ashamed of most sin. really? what an odd statement. i don't even believe in sin. i believe in morals and ethics, but that's a whole 'nother issue, now isnt' it? What I mean by this is they don't publicly boast about them. i'm pretty sure living an openly gay lifestyle is not "publicly boasting", unless wearing a wedding ring and walking in public with your spouse and children is publicly boasting. But homosexuality doesn't seem to be one of those. As in it makes the very heart of those who practice it openly, boldly rebellious and encourages society to partake of it. this lady is just nuts. When's the last time you saw a protest with people out applauding say lying, or cheating...or stealing? maybe because lying, cheating and stealing are entirely unlike being gay? Yet, homosexuals take this sin take it? and it seems to make one bolder in practicing it ~ like I said, an 'in your face' sin. poor gabby, having to look at the gays. It just seems to me that this particular sin stands alone as far as rebellion against God. yeah. uh huh. you think about this WAY too much, babe. Just thinking out loud on here... i'm not sure "thinking" is the word you're looking for. I've noticed that homosexuality seems to bring people to openly shake their fists at God. another terribly amusing image, if incredibly inaccurate and based solely in one twisted moron's imagination.
so there you have it: proof positive that fundamentalism makes you a bigoted asshole, and fundys have no fucking idea, or just don't care, what their lord and savior actually said.
Matthew 7:1-5
1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
Ballot Initiatives Concerning the Supreme Ruler of the Universe
theocracy, washington, ballot, initiative, atheism, atheist, religion, higher, power, supreme, god, religion, religious, christian, stupid,
I'm not kidding you. (Thanks to Bloc Raissoneur for tipping me off to this.)
In Washington, there is currently a ballot initative, number 1040, filed January 15, 2009, by
Ms. Kimberlie Struiksma
(address in the full text, link below)
kimberlies@hotmail.com
Ballot Title
Initiative Measure No. 1040
concerns a supreme ruler of the universe.This measure would prohibit state use of public money or lands for anything that denies or attempts to refute the existence of a supreme ruler of the universe, including textbooks, instruction or research. well, gee, just get rid of science, history, genetics, medicine, physics, geology, any science and any literature other than the bible.
Ballot Measure Summary (full text here)
This measure would require state government not to use public funds or property for anything that denies or attempts to refute the existence of a supreme ruler of the universe, including but not limited to appropriations for displays, textbooks, scientific endeavors, instruction, and research projects. The measure would provide that no person shall be questioned based on their personal values, beliefs, or opinions regarding the existence of a supreme ruler of the universe.
I am so blown away that in 2009 someone would attempt this shit, I printed it out and will type the text in for you. (Stupid pdf file.) I am leaving in the grammatical and spelling errors.
(1) The purpose of this act is to defend the liberty of the people of the state of Washington. According to the founding documents of our democratic society, the United States Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the state of Washington, the purpose of our government is to secure the liberties of the people which are governed. According to these documents, our liberties have been endowed by a higher power.
(2) This act is not about morality, or personal faith, or freedom of thought. It is not about what individual citizens choose to believe or disbelieve. It is not about repealing the First Amendment, denying the citizens of this state their constitutional right to free speech, prohibiting the free exercise of religion, or respecting an establishment of religion. It is not about limiting the rights of individual citizens; rather, it is about requiring our government to do its job, to protect our liberty, a liberty which has been endowed by our Creator, the one responsible for Blessing us, the Supreme Ruler of the Universe.
(3)
[...]
In this nation, it is WE, the people, who are sovereign. . . . According to the founding documents of our democratic society, our liberties are true and valid because they are endowed by a higher power. By contending that a higher power does not exist, our government removes the source of, invalidates, and consequently denies we the people of the United States our liberty. Thus, by denying the existence of a higher power our government defeats its purpose. It is therefore, unconstitutional for the government, as opposed to the individual citizens, of the state of Washington to deny or attempt to refute the existence of the Creator, the one responsible for Blessing us with liberty, the Supreme Ruler of the Universe.
Let's see what would be affected by this Ballot Measure:
any flyers, brochures, pamplets, signs, billboards, advertisements, announcments, or other postings.
any activity or operation designed to test or train state employees, members of the state armed forces, elected officials, students enrolled in public schools, including colleges and universities
any teachings, lessons, set of objectives or curriculum
any organization, corporation, company, partnership, association, trust, foundation, fund, club, society, committee, political party, board, commission, agency, independent office, political subdivision of any county, city, town, municipal corporation, school district, public educational institution, or any group of persons, whether or not incorporated, permanently or temporarily associated together for joint action or advancement of views on any subject or subjects that is receiving public moneys or property
any studious inquiry, investigation or experimentation
any act, idea, theory, intervention, coference, organization or individual having to do with science
any textbook, workbook, manual or material intended for use as a principal source of study matetial.
[...]
Section 3.2
Respecting no establishment of religion, yet with respect to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, whose existence has been declared in the preamble to the Constitution of the state of Washington, the state shall make no appropriation for nor apply any public moneys or property in support of anything, specifically including, but not limited to, any display, exercise, instruction, textbook, scientific endeavor, circulated document, or research project which denies or attempts to refute the existence of the Supreme Ruler of the Universe.
so essentially everything.
[...]
Section 6.3
No public entity shall be held in contempt for the personal beliefs regarding a Supreme Ruler of the Universe or a higher power of its employees or associates who are acting independently of the entity. However, the ideas set forth, regarding a Supreme Ruler of the Universe or a higher power, and perpetuated by individuals when acting on behalf of, or in a representative position, can be found to represent the beliefs of the larger public entity.
Welcome to the Theocratic State of Washington!
I'm not kidding you. (Thanks to Bloc Raissoneur for tipping me off to this.)
In Washington, there is currently a ballot initative, number 1040, filed January 15, 2009, by
Ms. Kimberlie Struiksma
(address in the full text, link below)
kimberlies@hotmail.com
Ballot Title
Initiative Measure No. 1040
concerns a supreme ruler of the universe.This measure would prohibit state use of public money or lands for anything that denies or attempts to refute the existence of a supreme ruler of the universe, including textbooks, instruction or research. well, gee, just get rid of science, history, genetics, medicine, physics, geology, any science and any literature other than the bible.
Ballot Measure Summary (full text here)
This measure would require state government not to use public funds or property for anything that denies or attempts to refute the existence of a supreme ruler of the universe, including but not limited to appropriations for displays, textbooks, scientific endeavors, instruction, and research projects. The measure would provide that no person shall be questioned based on their personal values, beliefs, or opinions regarding the existence of a supreme ruler of the universe.
I am so blown away that in 2009 someone would attempt this shit, I printed it out and will type the text in for you. (Stupid pdf file.) I am leaving in the grammatical and spelling errors.
(1) The purpose of this act is to defend the liberty of the people of the state of Washington. According to the founding documents of our democratic society, the United States Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the state of Washington, the purpose of our government is to secure the liberties of the people which are governed. According to these documents, our liberties have been endowed by a higher power.
(2) This act is not about morality, or personal faith, or freedom of thought. It is not about what individual citizens choose to believe or disbelieve. It is not about repealing the First Amendment, denying the citizens of this state their constitutional right to free speech, prohibiting the free exercise of religion, or respecting an establishment of religion. It is not about limiting the rights of individual citizens; rather, it is about requiring our government to do its job, to protect our liberty, a liberty which has been endowed by our Creator, the one responsible for Blessing us, the Supreme Ruler of the Universe.
(3)
[...]
In this nation, it is WE, the people, who are sovereign. . . . According to the founding documents of our democratic society, our liberties are true and valid because they are endowed by a higher power. By contending that a higher power does not exist, our government removes the source of, invalidates, and consequently denies we the people of the United States our liberty. Thus, by denying the existence of a higher power our government defeats its purpose. It is therefore, unconstitutional for the government, as opposed to the individual citizens, of the state of Washington to deny or attempt to refute the existence of the Creator, the one responsible for Blessing us with liberty, the Supreme Ruler of the Universe.
Let's see what would be affected by this Ballot Measure:
any flyers, brochures, pamplets, signs, billboards, advertisements, announcments, or other postings.
any activity or operation designed to test or train state employees, members of the state armed forces, elected officials, students enrolled in public schools, including colleges and universities
any teachings, lessons, set of objectives or curriculum
any organization, corporation, company, partnership, association, trust, foundation, fund, club, society, committee, political party, board, commission, agency, independent office, political subdivision of any county, city, town, municipal corporation, school district, public educational institution, or any group of persons, whether or not incorporated, permanently or temporarily associated together for joint action or advancement of views on any subject or subjects that is receiving public moneys or property
any studious inquiry, investigation or experimentation
any act, idea, theory, intervention, coference, organization or individual having to do with science
any textbook, workbook, manual or material intended for use as a principal source of study matetial.
[...]
Section 3.2
Respecting no establishment of religion, yet with respect to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, whose existence has been declared in the preamble to the Constitution of the state of Washington, the state shall make no appropriation for nor apply any public moneys or property in support of anything, specifically including, but not limited to, any display, exercise, instruction, textbook, scientific endeavor, circulated document, or research project which denies or attempts to refute the existence of the Supreme Ruler of the Universe.
so essentially everything.
[...]
Section 6.3
No public entity shall be held in contempt for the personal beliefs regarding a Supreme Ruler of the Universe or a higher power of its employees or associates who are acting independently of the entity. However, the ideas set forth, regarding a Supreme Ruler of the Universe or a higher power, and perpetuated by individuals when acting on behalf of, or in a representative position, can be found to represent the beliefs of the larger public entity.
Welcome to the Theocratic State of Washington!
Andy the Atheist
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Today I learned how to witness to atheists. I also learned that I must not be an atheist, because they sure weren't talking about me, or anyone else I know. (You simply must click on the link. The picture of Andy the Atheist is priceless. Apparently, atheists are always high. I'd also like to know where to get that shirt.)
Andy the Atheist
Basic Description
Atheism is defined as "not having a 'god belief'." try "lacking a belief in gods or deities or supreme beings". "god belief" is a really weird phrase. This is important to remember, because it's not that an atheist doesn't believe in god, because that statement opens the possibility that god or a supreme being exists. no, doesn't believe in god pretty much covers it, and does not "open the possibility" that god exists. if i say that i don't believe in tiny pink unicorns, am i opening the possibility that tiny pink unicorns exist? The atheist's worldview is driven by pure rationality, reason, and the scientific method. we're vulcans? that's a new one. The result of this is that most atheists hold the theory of evolution to be true, BECAUSE IT IS and they reject the possibility of the spiritual world and an afterlife. Most surveys show that around 15% of Americans call themselves atheist. That's actually (yes, I overuse "actually". I've come to terms with it.) not true. This figure comes from a survey, in which atheists are lumped together with agnostics and the "unaffiliated". More accurate surveys put atheism at between 2 and 5% of the population.
What Andy Believes
About Atheism:
Andy believes that atheism is the most rational and reasonable worldview, something insulting is sure to follow sometimes because of the 'damage' done by religion throughout the centuries meh, but mainly because it seems to be the most consistent with the observable world according to the scientific method. that "according to the scientific method" is freaking me out. ummm . . . what other way is there to interact with the observable world? what other world is there? oh . . . . yeah.
About God:
Andy lacks a 'god belief'. see above
About the Trinity:
Since Andy lacks a 'god belief', the concept of the Trinity is totally irrelevant. true, but you know why christians are so into the trinity? because it resolves that tiny problem of god speaking in the plural on occasion. I think Occam's Razor applies, but whatever.
Genesis 3:22 (KJV): And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
About Jesus:
Andy believes Jesus was either just an ordinary person, or never existed at all. He will oftentimes refer to the 'Jesus-Myth', i have never heard an atheist refer to the "jesus myth". is this a dawkins thing? or when he is being really sarcastic, refers to 'Jebus' (a sarcastic reference to Christ). I think this originated with the Simpsons.
About the Bible:
Andy believes the Bible is a collection of myths, half-truths, and lies designed to lead ignorant people astray and give power to religious leaders over the masses.
it is the placebo of the masses, after all.
About the Afterlife:
Andy does not believe in an afterlife. live now, this isn't prep for a final exam, people.
About Salvation:
In Andy's mind, there is no need for salvation from sin and hell. He doesn't believe in sin, and he doesn't believe in hell, so why does anyone need to be 'saved'? this is an odd interpretation of atheism, because it implies that atheists don't find anything morally repugnant or ethically wrong. i don't use the word "sin", but i don't find lying, stealing and murdering to be acceptable, either.
the next section is entitled: What the Bible Teaches. I'm not going to bother with it, because I find what the bible teaches to be irrelevant.
Things to Remember
The first thing you need to ask an atheist is "do you really seek to discover the truth - even if it costs you your reputation, and even your friends?" BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I love the implication that the only reason I'm not on my knees praying to the lord right now is that they'll take away my scarlet A if I do. If the answer is no, then realize that he/she is not willing to go where the evidence leads .; you won't be having an honest intellectual dialogue, so, if they aren't willing to convert to your brand of christianity, they're ignoring the evidence and are intellectually dishonest. way to frame the argument but your conversation may still have a spiritual impact. it's called "planting the seed".
Don't talk about sin with an atheist. In their worldview, morality is generally dependent on the situation and neutral, so there is no reference point in their minds for a concept of breaking God's universal laws. we're hopelessly sinful. we can't even understand why murder is unacceptable. and we lie a lot, too. i'm lying right now!
Don't get dragged into arguments about what God did or didn't do. it's so obnoxious when atheists bring up god punishing innocent women and children, or forcing Pharoah to continue the plagues against his will. kinda hard to talk about a "just god" after that. Focus on the evidence that Christ existed, died on the cross, and came back from the dead. what evidence? i'll grant you that the story of Yeshua is certainly based on a real person, but i have seen no evidence outside of the bible of anything else. As well, your personal testimony can be a powerful tool, because it's very difficult to 'disprove' the real and lasting change that Christ has brought to your life. actually, it's unnecessary to disprove real and lasting changes in another person's life. i am totally willing to concede that someone's belief changed them. that does not prove that what they believe is objectively real, only that it's real to them.
Bottom line with an atheist (or anyone else for that matter we're just like people!) - you cannot argue someone to faith in Christ isn't that my line?, but you can (and should) live such a Christlike life that those around you sense something different, which opens the door for you to explain the 'evidence'. if that makes fundys nicer people to be around, i am all about that. please, do so.
Today I learned how to witness to atheists. I also learned that I must not be an atheist, because they sure weren't talking about me, or anyone else I know. (You simply must click on the link. The picture of Andy the Atheist is priceless. Apparently, atheists are always high. I'd also like to know where to get that shirt.)
Andy the Atheist
Basic Description
Atheism is defined as "not having a 'god belief'." try "lacking a belief in gods or deities or supreme beings". "god belief" is a really weird phrase. This is important to remember, because it's not that an atheist doesn't believe in god, because that statement opens the possibility that god or a supreme being exists. no, doesn't believe in god pretty much covers it, and does not "open the possibility" that god exists. if i say that i don't believe in tiny pink unicorns, am i opening the possibility that tiny pink unicorns exist? The atheist's worldview is driven by pure rationality, reason, and the scientific method. we're vulcans? that's a new one. The result of this is that most atheists hold the theory of evolution to be true, BECAUSE IT IS and they reject the possibility of the spiritual world and an afterlife. Most surveys show that around 15% of Americans call themselves atheist. That's actually (yes, I overuse "actually". I've come to terms with it.) not true. This figure comes from a survey, in which atheists are lumped together with agnostics and the "unaffiliated". More accurate surveys put atheism at between 2 and 5% of the population.
What Andy Believes
About Atheism:
Andy believes that atheism is the most rational and reasonable worldview, something insulting is sure to follow sometimes because of the 'damage' done by religion throughout the centuries meh, but mainly because it seems to be the most consistent with the observable world according to the scientific method. that "according to the scientific method" is freaking me out. ummm . . . what other way is there to interact with the observable world? what other world is there? oh . . . . yeah.
About God:
Andy lacks a 'god belief'. see above
About the Trinity:
Since Andy lacks a 'god belief', the concept of the Trinity is totally irrelevant. true, but you know why christians are so into the trinity? because it resolves that tiny problem of god speaking in the plural on occasion. I think Occam's Razor applies, but whatever.
Genesis 3:22 (KJV): And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
About Jesus:
Andy believes Jesus was either just an ordinary person, or never existed at all. He will oftentimes refer to the 'Jesus-Myth', i have never heard an atheist refer to the "jesus myth". is this a dawkins thing? or when he is being really sarcastic, refers to 'Jebus' (a sarcastic reference to Christ). I think this originated with the Simpsons.
About the Bible:
Andy believes the Bible is a collection of myths, half-truths, and lies designed to lead ignorant people astray and give power to religious leaders over the masses.
it is the placebo of the masses, after all.
About the Afterlife:
Andy does not believe in an afterlife. live now, this isn't prep for a final exam, people.
About Salvation:
In Andy's mind, there is no need for salvation from sin and hell. He doesn't believe in sin, and he doesn't believe in hell, so why does anyone need to be 'saved'? this is an odd interpretation of atheism, because it implies that atheists don't find anything morally repugnant or ethically wrong. i don't use the word "sin", but i don't find lying, stealing and murdering to be acceptable, either.
the next section is entitled: What the Bible Teaches. I'm not going to bother with it, because I find what the bible teaches to be irrelevant.
Things to Remember
The first thing you need to ask an atheist is "do you really seek to discover the truth - even if it costs you your reputation, and even your friends?" BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I love the implication that the only reason I'm not on my knees praying to the lord right now is that they'll take away my scarlet A if I do. If the answer is no, then realize that he/she is not willing to go where the evidence leads .; you won't be having an honest intellectual dialogue, so, if they aren't willing to convert to your brand of christianity, they're ignoring the evidence and are intellectually dishonest. way to frame the argument but your conversation may still have a spiritual impact. it's called "planting the seed".
Don't talk about sin with an atheist. In their worldview, morality is generally dependent on the situation and neutral, so there is no reference point in their minds for a concept of breaking God's universal laws. we're hopelessly sinful. we can't even understand why murder is unacceptable. and we lie a lot, too. i'm lying right now!
Don't get dragged into arguments about what God did or didn't do. it's so obnoxious when atheists bring up god punishing innocent women and children, or forcing Pharoah to continue the plagues against his will. kinda hard to talk about a "just god" after that. Focus on the evidence that Christ existed, died on the cross, and came back from the dead. what evidence? i'll grant you that the story of Yeshua is certainly based on a real person, but i have seen no evidence outside of the bible of anything else. As well, your personal testimony can be a powerful tool, because it's very difficult to 'disprove' the real and lasting change that Christ has brought to your life. actually, it's unnecessary to disprove real and lasting changes in another person's life. i am totally willing to concede that someone's belief changed them. that does not prove that what they believe is objectively real, only that it's real to them.
Bottom line with an atheist (or anyone else for that matter we're just like people!) - you cannot argue someone to faith in Christ isn't that my line?, but you can (and should) live such a Christlike life that those around you sense something different, which opens the door for you to explain the 'evidence'. if that makes fundys nicer people to be around, i am all about that. please, do so.
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