Monday, March 29, 2010

You're Not a Terrorist if You Worship Saint Ronny Raygun

So, how do you, as a terrorist, get every wingnut in the US on your side? Simple: carry around a Bible and worship at the Church of Ronny Raygun.

Yesterday, the FBI raided a militia in Michigan.

At least seven people, including some from Michigan, have been arrested in raids
by a FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force in Michigan, Ohio and Indiana as part of
an investigation into an Adrian-based Christian militia group, a person familiar
with the matter said.

A militia that was, btw, planning to murder a police officer, then use the funeral as an opportunity to kill more law enforcement officers with IEDs (not just for Iraqis, apparently).

The Hutaree members allegedly "planned to kill an unidentified member of
local law enforcement and then attack the law enforcement officers who gather in
Michigan for the funeral. According to the plan, the Hutaree would attack law
enforcement vehicles during the funeral procession with Improvised Explosive
Devices with Explosively Formed Projectiles, which, according to the indictment,
constitute weapons of mass destruction."

Did the same people who will call the police on me when I have a pashmina wrapped around my head* get equally freaked out by terrorists with IEDs in the US? No, these are good Christians. Don't be silly.

This really irritates me. Islamberg in New York state appears to operate with virtual
impunity, but God forbid a Christian militia group mention muslims!!! At least
at this point, it seems the mere mention brought down the hammer.

That's right, it's all the muslims' fault. Slaughtering police officers with IEDs is just a distraction.

I would like to know what the FBI protocols are for following up on accusations.
Do they have anything to do with ethnicity or beliefs of the accused? Or with
whom is in a protected class? The FBI used to be a bulwark of honest law
enforcement. Now they seem to be a political tool.

Fascist bastards, infringing upon their rights to murder police officers.

I agree. It appears that a U.S.based islamic militia group has worked with the
government to bring about these raids on what is basically a survivalist
Christian militia. Homeland Security and Napolitano have their fingerprints all
over this one. Obama and Nepaolitano would do well to investigate the islamic
terrorist militia's scattered all over the country linked to alQaeda, and leave
these harmless, tho maybe flaky Christian groups alone. I have read three
articles and I have yet to find out what the charges are and why they were


This group could be a bit misguided, but since when is it a crime in this
country to prepare for the coming of the AC?

It's not a crime to stockpile Bibles and water or even to own guns. IEDs are an entirely different matter.

This one is crystal clear.The administration is afraid that Militia's will start
popping up since we're headed rapidly towards a totalitarian state - and the

I'm frightened of nutjobs with IEDs, so I'm okay with that message.

You hit it perfectly. This is such an obvious push back at tea-party Christians.
First, we were a joke (tea-baggers). Then we were 'racist'. Now, we're
'terrorists'. They're creating that public perception that Christians = unstable
and dangerous.

These Christians certainly are unstable and dangerous, but I wasn't conflating them with all Christians.

*true story. the cop was both amused and annoyed and then gave me a ride to the store to make up for scaring me half to death. nice guy.


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  2. As an Oklahoman and one whose father was headed to a building across the street from the Alfred P. Murrah building on April 19, 1995, Rapture Retards can go fuck themselves.

    The bombing happened before my father got to the city.

  3. Bloody hell. I'm not surprised that you'll find christian extremists like this around the place: you find extremists everywhere. But I am surprised that other wingnuts are supportive of these fanatics. Even people living in islamic countries disown the likes of al'quaida [sic?].

    I wonder if they'd be equally supportive if Hutaree had put their plans into action?

    PS: You realise you have to expand on the pashmina incident now? You can't just leave us hanging here!

  4. This story is all over the news today; it's pretty freakin scary.

    I've been slowly working on an essay about Christianity logically concluding in nihilism. The idea is that anarchy can be justified depending on which scripture you pay most attention to. Seeing as the militia was preparing for and attempting to hasten the coming of Jesus (and thus the apocalypse), I'm feeling a little creeped out right now...

  5. o...................

    now, i'm the first to start yelling when cops step out of line.
    but the clear and simple fact is that *most* cops are doing a hard and *dangerous* job. they DO NOT deserve *THAT*

    and FUCKING FURTHER, you right-wing-suthoritarian-fundamentalist-patriarichal-conservate-faux-Christians - LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. look at what you are saying "Obama and co" want - YOU are PROJECTING the aspirations YOU had onto people who DO NOT have those aspirations.

    let me tell you about "totalitarian". it's a thing you *think* you know, but you DON'T.

    it's about losing a job over your religion, and NOT having federal law to back you, because at the time it wasn't a "recognized" religion. it's about every freaking fundy Christian in this country WANTING TO *IMPOSE* *THEIR* beliefs on everyone else - and THAT is totalitarianism MUCH greater than the "totalitarianism" is PUTTING HEALTH CARE REFORM TO THE VOTE. if you actually ask people "do you think health care should be accessable" the answers are over 60% YES - it's on thru dickery with the questions that you get "off" answers -

    but, here, the fucking fundys are WHINING because the decision for health care reform CAME ABOUT THRU DEMOCRACY - and so OF COURSE it's "totalitarian", because THEY didn't want it - but when the country, a MAJORITY of the country at that, did NOT want to invade Iraq again? well, that WASN'T totalitarian. because THEY did it.

    so, really, "totalitarian" = "what the fundy conservative rightwing CCs DON'T WANT"; so REALLY totalitarian = DEMOCRACY


  6. Honestly, if anyone in nearly any religion is going to take his/her holy book literally, they'd have to be slaughtering everyone who disagrees with them, all the time. With the revival in literal Bible reading surging through American Christianity, this shouldn't be that surprising, on an intellectual level.

  7. CN -

    as a pagan who was explicitly taught "there are more ways to God than there are stars in the sky" - i'm pretty sure that *I'M* not going to have a problem with imposing my religion literally and killing people. lol


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