Wednesday, October 20, 2010

Oh, Yes, Christianity Isn't Misogynist At All

Hey, it's Biblical.

I lurve it when Christians deny what's in their own book. Genocide? Don't be silly! Incest? Well, that's not promoted or anything. Misogyny? Hah! Christianity did more for women than any other movement, including the feminist movement.

I was unaware that "shut up when the men are talking" is a feminist message.

1 Corinthians 14:34,35

Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.

Well, that's a feminist message if I've ever heard one! No, wait . . .

Okay, that's one passage in a really big book, let's see:

Ephesians 5:22,23

Wives, submit to your own husbands , as to the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body.

Huh. Submission to men. Not exactly doing anything for women. Okay, then:

1 Timothy 2:11-14

Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.

Women are to blame for everything! And can't have authority. Or teach.

Look, if you're actually reading the Bible, it's deeply misogynist. Women, when they are even mentioned, and more rarely, named, are either entirely to blame for a man's problems, or praiseworthy for being silent and taking whatever they are given. Feminism, it's not.


  1. And in other news: water is wet, the sun rises in the east, and fire is hot.

    This helpful announcement was brought to you by the Department of Scientifically Proving Sh*t You Already Knew.

  2. Paul hated the vagina for some reason, could possibly have been a self hating homosexual.

  3. Possibly? Hell, I'm pretty sure he was the Ur-Haggard...

  4. And this is why I don't always get Christian feminists. When the principle that men and women are equal runs up against god's "truth" as is actually written in the bible, what gets trumped? I mean, misogyny and male dominance are integral parts of much Christianity, if you take that away or revise things too much believers don't accept it as legitimately Christian.

  5. Um, look here little miss, I don't seem to remember asking your opinion about my oh so powerfully manly Bible. How about you go back in the kitchen there and make me some pie?

    Super J.

  6. My Manliness agree's with Super J! What are you doing out of the kitchen, Personal Failure? How dare you not be making us testosterone-filled pies to fuel our MANLY actions! MAKE US MANY MANLY PIES NOW, OR NO MANLY SKY CAKE OF MANLINESS FOR YOU AFTER YOU DIE! [/large ham]

    Seriously, though...

    Oh who am I kidding? Nobody's going to be able to take me seriously after that.


  7. "No manly sky cake of manliness for you!" I am going to have to find a way to slip that into a conversation at work tomorrow.

    I just... I've watched too many churches where the men get all the status (and pay, mind you) while the women do all the work. It's not a problem exclusive to churches, of course, but it's frighteningly ubiquitous within them (at least in my experience). Between that and the fact that every church I've ever attended, when given the choice between a decent, caring human being and a charismatic @ssh*le with the soul of a used car salesman, goes immediately and inevitably to the @ssh*le.

    It's one of the reasons that even if I were still capable of religious belief, I wouldn't belong to a church. I'd be one of those "I believe in God, I just don't believe in religion" types.

  8. PF, I'm sure you must be aware of Vyckie Garrison's amazing blog, No Longer Quivering.

    She and many other women bought into these surrealistic biblical lies, bore astonishing quantities of children and went full-tilt into the submissive-wife role. Most were Christian, but one was taken in by the Hare Krishna movement. The tales of their escapes (often physical, sometimes just mental) from this horrible sexist bondage are fascinating.

    I'd strongly encourage everyone to read and support Vyckie's blog.


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