Wednesday, July 1, 2009

Teh Gai, Now Bad for Wimminz, too!

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Joshua Berman believes that if homosexuality gains widespread accepted in society, men will no longer have sex with women and WE'RE ALL DOOMED! DOOMED, I TELL YOU!!1!!!eleventy!!!

Just a clue, Mr. Berman, if you prefer to have sex with men, and don't really find women sexually exciting at all, you're homosexual. That's it. I could have sex with women. I don't, because women don't do it for me. No matter how acceptable homosexuality becomes, women aren't going to be any more sexually attractive to me.

In other words, Mr. Berman, it's not society, it's you.

Men, we learn from ancient Rome, will enjoy sex with other men, if there is no social censure. Now, all of this should be fine for us as well -- after all, we should let free choice and tolerance reign.

The real problems begin, however, when we read what these writers had to say about marriage. Consider this piece from the first century BCE poet Catullus (Carmen 61:134-141), in which the poet addresses himself to a bridegroom on the eve of his nuptials:

"You are said to find it hard, Perfumed bridegroom, to give up Smooth-skinned boys, but give them up... We realize you've only known Permitted pleasures: husbands, though, Have no right to the same pleasures."

The social history behind this piece is clear: once they've experienced sex with other men, Catullus tells us, men are unsatisfied with what their new wives provide them. Notice that the poet is unconcerned about the husband's dallying with other women -- it's the other men around that threaten the marital union.

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The losers from all this will be the vast majority of women. With full social sanction given to homoerotic activity, the historical precedent suggests that tomorrow's women will have a harder time finding and holding on to suitable men. As women will suffer, so will the vitality and stability of the nuclear family.

Is there anything to say about the above other than, "That closet has a door, Mr. Berman, open it."?


  1. OMT (Oh my Thor), that is ill. I better keep my sons out of sweaty locker rooms because the mere proximity to other sweaty, hairy butts will set their hearts aflutter!

  2. "The losers fro mall this will be the vast majority of women. With full social sanction given to homoerotic activity, the historical precedent suggests that tomorrow's women will have a harder time finding and holdling on the suitable men."

    Joshua, here, is assuming that all homos are men. Once we he learns about the existence of lesbians, he will understand that while "tomorrow's women" may find it more difficult to snag a man, they will no longer desire men. So using his logic, of course, there would be no problem.

  3. Oh my, I think he just came out to the intertubes.

  4. Mainly I think the biggest problem with him is that he is one of those people who will believe something written in ancient books over any amount of evidence. It doesn't matter that he is putting the words of one ancient roman against the evidence of the entire modern world. That ancient Romans words are written down in an old book, and Christianity has conditioned him not to question things written in old books. No matter how much evidence shows them false.

  5. How do you find all these things??

    " heterosexual woman rarely found sexual satisfaction in the company of another woman. "

    WOW, who knew?

  6. This is pretty ridiculous... Yes, he just came out to the internet, but who hasn't in our day and age? More ridiculous is the idea that it is only men who enjoy sex. I have it on personal authority that this is not true.


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