obama, ghandi, christianity, jesus, carlotta, stupidTo answer the question of just how fucking crazy Christians can get, Ghandi is now offensive. Yes, that Ghandi.
Apparently, sombody asked President Obama which person, dead or alive, he would like to have dinner with, and he answered Ghandi. “He’s somebody I find a lot of inspiration in. He inspired Dr. (Martin Luther) King. He ended up doing so much and changed the world just by the power of his ethics.”
Well, yeah, Ghandi. Okay. He might not eat much, but who doesn't want to meet Ghandi?
Apparently, people like Carlotta, for whom any answer other than Jesus is a slap to the face of Christians everywhere.
If that’s why he chose Gandhi, then what has Jesus done as far as he’s concerned? He only changed several nations of people by his mere words and miraculous wonders. He died and then raised himself from the dead! But step back Jesus because Gandhi was more impressive to Obama.
In less than a two week period, Obama has publicly embraced religious practices and/or persons who are complete contradictions to the teachings of Jesus Christ. He has made acceptable false teachers, prophets and teachings.
Okay. Just a better picture on the one who calls himself a Christian.
That's right. If you're a Christian, you can't have any respect or interest in anything or anyone other than Jesus. Einstein? Well, yeah, he discovered relativity, but fuck that shit, god made relativity! Beethoven? Wrote some good tunes, but it's god who made you capable of hearing them (and Beethoven incapable of hearing them. irony.)! Edward Jenner? Discovered vaccines, but it's god who gave you an immune system in the first place! In your face, Jenner!
I guarantee you that if Obama had chosen his mother, just for the chance to see her one more time, Carlotta would take that as evidence that Obama, muslimterrorsocialistHE'sBLACK! that he is, doesn't actually believe in heaven, because if he believed in heaven, then he could just wait until he died to see her.
Honestly, are you trying to make Christianity look bad?
Also, er, those "several nations" were changed by Jesus's followers, not actually Jesus. Jesus preached and was executed. Yay.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention that there's actual documented evidence of neat things Gandhi and MLK did.
Wow. Carlotta's reaction is ridiculous even by fundie standards.
ReplyDeleteDoes make you wonder who's the one person you'd like to meet, living or not, though. Personally, I might choose Leonardo da Vinci, just to be able to probe (if he'd let me) such massive a intellect. (We're talking about the guy who pretty much discovered all the basics of science, from human anatomy to airplanes.
Okay, enough derailing.
Err, bad cut-and-paste job on that last one. Take two:
ReplyDeleteDoes make you wonder who's the one person you'd like to meet, living or not, though. Personally, I might choose Leonardo da Vinci, just to be able to probe (if he'd let me) such a massive intellect. (We're talking about the guy who pretty much discovered all the basics of science, from human anatomy to airplanes, three hundred years before they were "officially" discovered.)
hmmm . . . i'd like to say something like da vinci, but the honest truth is, i'd like to have lunch with cliffy b.
ReplyDelete"...practices and/or persons who are complete contradictions to the teachings of Jesus Christ."
ReplyDeleteUm. Yes. Because Ghandi was ALL ABOUT murder and hatred and violence and avarice and promiscuity. ALL ABOUT IT.
"Um. Yes. Because Ghandi was ALL ABOUT murder and hatred and violence and avarice and promiscuity. ALL ABOUT IT."
ReplyDeleteWell, he has been known to go around bare-skinned alot.
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well, in ghandi's case, going about naked was unlikely to incite lust in anyone. in fact, naked ghandi is pretty much a cure to lust.
ReplyDeleteso, in order to obey commandments regarding lusting, ghandi's practically a necessity.
Either Voltaire or Thomas Jefferson preferably both. Throw in Jim Morrison, Earnest Hemmingway, Andy Warhol, and Douglas Adams and we are talking about the ultimate resurrection dinner party. Everyone is likely to end up pretty drunk though.
ReplyDeleteI'd have to go way back and pick someone like Homer. He'd probably have a lot of interesting stories.
ReplyDeleteI thought about Socrates, but he'd ask too many questions.
I believe it was Ghandi who said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians." Now, personally I think that shows some ignorance of Christian scriptures but hey...Ghandi didn't hate Jesus Christ.
ReplyDeleteSo really, Obama is in good company. That said, I think Obama is in good company even if he did align himself with folks who don't like or support Jesus, his father and Abrahamic scare tactics, intolerance and bigotry. In fact, I think the world would be better off being run by those with the brains enough to leave their religious views at the door and stand up for responsible secularism and true justice for all.
i think i'm going to hell for this one -
ReplyDeletei posted a fairly long reply to what this woman said on her blog. in said reply, i pointed out things like "Maybe Obama feels he doesn't need to "meet" Jesus because he already knows Jesus" and "most people, when asked this question, do *NOT* answer with Jesus (or other icon religious person/teacher)" and that they don't possibly because "it might be blasphemous"
and lots more, actually.
don't know that it will get thru moderation. if it doesn't, i C&Ped it to my LJ
http://denelian.livejournal.com/182805.html
did you guys miss me :D
oh, damn, i forgot the important bit.
ReplyDeletereading it again, after i hit the "post" button (at the other site, i mean) it really comes off as if i am a Christian myself. i didn't really *mean* to sound like a Christian, i was just trying to sound friendly and such - but *that*, the accidentally masquerading as a Christian, that is why i say i am probably going to hell.
In your case, the question would be which hell.
ReplyDeleteAlso, really, really, really missed you!
Gandhi would be boring. I'd have Lemmy from Motorhead over for tea.
ReplyDelete"which Hell? Witch Hell!"
ReplyDeletehahahaha!!! oh, drugs make me funny!
thanks - i missed you too! and i missed your posts - you write the best stuff, you really do! i did sort of have internet access while i was in the hospital, but A) it was spotty and B) i kept falling asleep while reading - i never got past the first email i tried to read, until after i was home.
probably better that way - gods only know *what* crazyness i would have written :D